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Old 09-04-2016, 04:14 PM
 
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If you want a show, and ritual, and the banging of the drum, and the flashing lights, don't become a JW, they don't have anything like that. But, then again, they are trying to be Christians.
No, Marakorpa, they are trying to be Jehovan's - something very different.They reject the New Covenant "written in our hearts" by God for the failed Old Covenant "written in ink" and stone.
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Old 09-04-2016, 05:15 PM
 
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No, Marakorpa, they are trying to be Jehovan's - something very different.They reject the New Covenant "written in our hearts" by God for the failed Old Covenant "written in ink" and stone.
I don't know what you mean, but I will say you are wrong...LOL
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Old 09-04-2016, 05:47 PM
 
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When man says his way is the only way, run the other way.
Is that why people ran away from Jesus because Jesus said he was the way, the truth, the life ?_______

Why else would a person belong to a religion unless they believed it was the right one ?
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Old 09-04-2016, 07:16 PM
 
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No, Marakorpa, they are trying to be Jehovan's - something very different.They reject the New Covenant "written in our hearts" by God for the failed Old Covenant "written in ink" and stone.
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I don't know what you mean, but I will say you are wrong...LOL
I know you don't know what I mean because you are a JW.

Hebrews 8:7-13 King James Version (KJV)
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that He saith, A new covenant, He hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

John 14:26 King James Version (KJV)

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

1 John 2:27 (King James Version)

27But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.

2 Corinthians 3: 2-6 (King James Version)

2Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
4And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
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Old 09-04-2016, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Texas and Arkansas
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I know you don't know what I mean because you are a JW.

Hebrews 8:7-13 King James Version (KJV)
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that He saith, A new covenant, He hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

John 14:26 King James Version (KJV)

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

1 John 2:27 (King James Version)

27But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.

2 Corinthians 3: 2-6 (King James Version)

2Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
4And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
LOL, You just quoted the word of God that proved you wrong. LOL

I'm not going to show it to you though, because you would still reject it, like you do with Jesus.

BTW, why quote that, you know you believe the Bible isn't from God ... so what authority do you think you have quoting this? Yours!? LOL

BTW2 - I am not a JW!
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Old 09-04-2016, 07:56 PM
 
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I know you don't know what I mean because you are a JW.

Hebrews 8:7-13 King James Version (KJV)
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that He saith, A new covenant, He hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

John 14:26 King James Version (KJV)

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

1 John 2:27 (King James Version)

27But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.

2 Corinthians 3: 2-6 (King James Version)

2Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
4And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
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LOL, You just quoted the word of God that proved you wrong. LOL
I'm not going to show it to you though, because you would still reject it, like you do with Jesus.
BTW, why quote that, you know you believe the Bible isn't from God ... so what authority do you think you have quoting this? Yours!? LOL
Wrong. It supports my view. I DO believe the Bible is from God. I just do NOT believe ALL of it is from God and a lot of it is corrupted and misinterpreted by our ignorant and superstitious ancestors and their leaders.
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BTW2 - I am not a JW!
I was posting to Marakorpa, not you.
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Old 09-04-2016, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Texas and Arkansas
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Wrong. It supports my view.
Oh no it does not!

You claimed the OT failed, the NT does not support that!!

It's plain you do not believe the word of God is from God!!
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Old 09-04-2016, 08:09 PM
 
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Wrong. It supports my view. I DO believe the Bible is from God. I just do NOT believe ALL of it is from God and a lot of it is corrupted and misinterpreted by our ignorant and superstitious ancestors and their leaders.I was posting to Marakorpa, not you.
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Oh no it does not!
You claimed the OT failed, the NT does not support that!!
It's plain you do not believe the word of God is from God!!
IF the Old Covenant had NOT failed, why was it necessary for Christ to institute the New Covenant and send the Comforter to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts" instead the words "written in ink" and stone????
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Old 09-04-2016, 08:18 PM
 
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And WHAT, pray tell, do you think it is He writes on our hearts??? The whole point was that the WHOLE COUNSEL OF G-d be written on the INSIDE OF US, as opposed to the outside of us/written in ink and stone, NOT that it all be chucked! The law didn't change, it's LOCATION did, alone with the addition of the Spirit to understand it in the first place.

Which is why He said not one jot or tittle would pass away till all be fulfilled. How is it fulfilled? BY BEING WRITTEN IN YOU.....EVERY JOT AND TITLE. NOT by being tossed out. Yeshua was THAT WORD made flesh, and the servant is not greater than the Master. Peace
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Old 09-04-2016, 08:35 PM
 
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IF the Old Covenant had NOT failed, why was it necessary for Christ to institute the New Covenant and send the Comforter to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts" instead the words "written in ink" and stone????
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And WHAT, pray tell, do you think it is He writes on our hearts??? The whole point was that the WHOLE COUNSEL OF G-d be written on the INSIDE OF US, as opposed to the outside of us/written in ink and stone, NOT that it all be chucked! The law didn't change, it's LOCATION did, alone with the addition of the Spirit to understand it in the first place.
Which is why He said not one jot or tittle would pass away till all be fulfilled. How is it fulfilled? BY BEING WRITTEN IN YOU.....EVERY JOT AND TITLE. NOT by being tossed out. Yeshua was THAT WORD made flesh, and the servant is not greater than the Master. Peace
It wasn't the "laws" that were written, it was the PRINCIPLE upon which the laws were based - agape love - concern for the well-being of everyone involved. The laws focused them on God and their self-interest served by their obedience, not the love of each other. That is why they failed. Christ's sacrifice was unambiguous, "No greater love . . .", and His instructions to His disciples given multiple times to love God and each other every day and repent when they didn't so that they would be known by their love for one another.
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