Temporal consequenses of sin.

[jghorton]

Originally Posted by Hans12

jghorton: You wrote that worldly consequences are not explicitly defined, but what do the Catholics mean by it ?
Thanks

I can't speak for "the Catholics," but, as a universal truth regarding the worldly consequences of sin, I believe they may be referring to (1) the consequences of sin in the life of the individual, (2) the consequences of sin in the lives of other people and (3) the 'Spiritual deadening/hardening' effects of rendering one less able to hear, see and respond to God.

[Hans12]

jghorton: How is an absolution supposed to relieve (1) the consequences of sin in the life of the individual, (2) the consequences of sin in the lives of other people ? Are you sure that consequences of sin doesn't mean the feeling of guilt or sin ?

Thanks

[jghorton]

Originally Posted by Hans12

jghorton: How is an absolution supposed to relieve (1) the consequences of sin in the life of the individual, (2) the consequences of sin in the lives of other people ? Are you sure that consequences of sin doesn't mean the feeling of guilt or sin ?
Thanks

Therein lies the problem with stepping outside of the Bible for one's truth or authority. I know of nothing, even God's forgiveness, that totally eliminates the consequences of sin from one's life or the lives of others. (Using an over-simplified example, suppose one murders another person and later turns to Christ in repentance for forgiveness. The dead person is still dead; the family has still lost a loved one; and even the forgiven person still has murder and the damage done to others on his conscience... and is perhaps in prison for life).

'Feelings of guilt or sin' may lead one to repentance ... and could, perhaps, be considered a temporal consequence' ... IF one actually 'feels' a sense of sin or guilt,' but, that isn't always the case. Feelings of 'guilt' may actually be the enemy telling a person, "You can't turn to God now, because you are irreconcilably guilty." (Of course, everyone, at one time or another, 'has sinned (and is thus, 'guilty' of sin.')

[Atkutuq]

Temporal consequences of sin.

King David was responsible for the death's of 70,000 Jews (because he sinned & counted the people).

King David was told to take one wife - He took six - then murdered a man to take his wife (Bathsheba).

He suffered much temporal consequences of his sins. His life was a mess His family was a mess. He should have listened and obeyed God.

Guilty of murder - Adultery and much more.. Yet God in His mercy, gave King David a name that is the most mentioned name in all of the bible. Mentioned

more times than Jesus!

How is it possible that God says concerning King David - He is the "apple' of my eye.

God blessed David & Bathsheba and Solomon was born!

Did you know? Bathsheba wrote proverbs chapter 31!

[Hans12]

jghorton: So temporal consequences of sin can include the feeling of sin or guilt. It also means other things, but is an absolution or communion supposed to remove these feelings? And which temporal punishments is one cleansed for in the purgatory before being let into heaven ?
Thanks