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Old 03-04-2014, 10:34 PM
 
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2 Corinthians 5:21
God made him who had no sin to be sin for us,
so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Isaiah 53:5
But he was pierced for our transgressions;
he was crushed for our iniquities;
upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace,

and with his wounds we are healed.

Acts 2:23
This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge;
and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross.

Matthew 20:17-19
"And Jesus said : ...the Son of Man will be delivered over to the chief priests and the teachers of the law.
They will condemn him to death and will hand him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified.
On the third day he will be raised to life!”
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:41 AM
 
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Ash Wednesday Lenten service was the beginning of the focus as why .... "for without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness." Hebrews 9:22
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:42 PM
 
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"for without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness." Hebrews 9:22
The law of the Spirit is life; and the forgiveness of sin.
The law of Sacrifice, equates only to death.

"For what power has love; but forgiveness."
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:34 PM
 
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AMEN!! Great post twin!
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Old 03-09-2014, 04:06 AM
 
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It was God`s plan from early on that the Saviour would be the judgment for man who all lost and condemned to perish because of the authority of satan over Adam and his descendants ............Where by this authority of satan men were manipulated with satan sin of envy which made Jesus a captor and put him on the cross and killed this innocent man which God created like Adam , where Jesus was not a direct descendant of Adam , but a created man who God used Mary to be a surrogate mother and bring a only begotten Son to the earth ................After the killing of Jesus on the cross by the captors and the spiritual authority of satan ,............... God raised up Jesus and made Him the Saviour and a judgment for all men who would take a side against satan and his sin and then come into unity with God through the righteousness of Lord Jesus , men would abandon the descendants of Adam and become adopted into the descendants of Lord Jesus ................. See the cross and death and resurrection of Jesus how horrible it was brought a judgment which God needed to bring life to a condemned man
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:33 AM
 
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Ash Wednesday Lenten service was the beginning of the focus as why .... "for without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness." Hebrews 9:22
That this bloodthirsty belief has survived into the modern era is a travesty of religious obstinance. Retaining the ancient ignorance and superstitions of our ancestors has been the biggest stumbling block to knowing God and Jesus . . . which IS what eternal life IS. If he existed Satan would be laughing all the way to the gates of Hell over that victory. We can never know God and Jesus if we retain the ancient ignorance of our savage and barbaric ancestors. That means our chances of eternal life are diminished by such beliefs.
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:29 AM
 
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That this bloodthirsty belief has survived into the modern era is a travesty of religious obstinance. Retaining the ancient ignorance and superstitions of our ancestors has been the biggest stumbling block to knowing God and Jesus . . . which IS what eternal life IS. If he existed Satan would be laughing all the way to the gates of Hell over that victory. We can never know God and Jesus if we retain the ancient ignorance of our savage and barbaric ancestors. That means our chances of eternal life are diminished by such beliefs.
Your rejection will prove itself that "for without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness." Hebrews 9:22



that there will be no forgiveness awaiting you but rather righteous wrath for those who are enemies of the Gospel.
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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there will be no forgiveness awaiting you but rather righteous wrath for those who are enemies of the Gospel.
You think God is vindictive and violent???????????:shoc ked:


Wow!!!!


That is the barbaric ancient primitive view of God.

This is the 21st century!
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:53 AM
 
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You think God is vindictive and violent???????????:shoc ked:


Wow!!!!


That is the barbaric ancient primitive view of God.

This is the 21st century!
John 3:14
Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,

Luke 9:22
And he [Jesus] said,
“The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief
priests and the teachers of the law, and he must be killed and on the third day be raised
to life.”



and when Peter attempted to stop Jesus from his "barbaric ancient primitive view of God [being] vindictive and violent" Jesus replied:
Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me;
you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”


Isaiah 53:5
But he was pierced for our transgressions;
he was crushed for our iniquities;
upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace,
and with his wounds we are healed.

Acts 2:23
This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge;
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:57 PM
 
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Your rejection will prove itself that "for without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness." Hebrews 9:22
that there will be no forgiveness awaiting you but rather righteous wrath for those who are enemies of the Gospel.
I am no enemy of Christ's Gospel of love nor of God, twin. I follow Christ's instructions to His disciples to "love God and each other" daily and repent when I don't. I use my intellect and reasoning power to understand God . . . not 1st century ignorance and superstitionModerator cut: delete

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