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My point is this. If Satan is unleashed in the final days, then his people all over the world will come out of the woodwork. Not just a centralized nation.
Satan is already at work and has been for the last 6,000 years. He is not given full power and authority until the last 3 1/2 years. He is being held back until his given time. Yes, they will come out of the woodwork, but there will be a leading force driving the army into battle. Those who are part of the NWO will be that army. But within the NWO there are many nations. That's why the "red dragon" has 7 heads and 10 horns. The 7 heads consist of Great Britain, Germany, Russia and the antichrist. The 10 horns symbolize the rulers of the nation. As of right now, there are many nations that aren't part of the one world government system. By the grace of God, if our country would straighten up, turn to God and pray, we could probably be spared. As long as we don't become part of the NWO and if we aren't wiped out in the 6th trumpet war, we can be spared the wrath of satan. The antichrist is not going to have reign over every part of the world. So there's hope for the U.S.! But our government and citizens are so corrupt and not living a godly lifestyle. There's idolatry, homosexuality, murder, adultery, hatred etc. Its time for our country to get it together!!! The wrongdoings of others will cost us "Christians" our lives. That will NOT make me happy.
Joel 3:2,"For behold, in those days and at the time, When I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem,"
Judah and Jerusalem have been restored via the outcome of W.W. II and the 3 Israel wars. The house of Judah includes Benjamin, Judah, and Levi. That leaves the 10 lost tribes of Israel, which includes the two sons of Joseph.
Right now, we are in the time of "I will gather all the nations, and bring them down to the valley of Jehosphaphat. Then I will enter into judgment with them there". Joel 3:2
All of this is speaking about the end, when Jesus comes back. He has not "restored" them because they have not turned to Jesus. It isn't until He stands on the Mount of Olives when they realized He truly is the Messiah. There are plenty of other scriptures that will coincide with this to show you all of this pertains to the end.
My point is this. If Satan is unleashed in the final days, then his people all over the world will come out of the woodwork. Not just a centralized nation.
Dear Ozzy,
Satan is the "ruler of the world" now. (John 14:30) During the period of the "Day of the Lord", the dragon "was thrown down to the earth," (Rev 12:9) It is at the end of the millennium that the dragon is "released for a short time". (Rev 20:3)
The "dragon" is the deceiver, he doesn't come out of the woodworks. He remains the power behind the authority given to the rulers of men. (Rev 13:4) The "dragon" simply knows he has a "short time" and he will persecute the woman who gave birth to the male child, which would be Judah.(Rev 12:12)
The nations will "conspire" to "wipe" the nation of "Israel" out. (Psalms 83:4-5) The nations will be judged in the "valley of Jehoshaphat". (Joel 3:2)
The nations will fit the imagery of Dan 2, and will be a combination of the iron (Rome) and common clay. The imagery of red clay, is the imagery of Edom, whose name means "red". Edom could represent the Arabs along with the other nations listed in Psalms 83.
Dear Ozzy,
Satan is the "ruler of the world" now. (John 14:30) During the period of the "Day of the Lord", the dragon "was thrown down to the earth," (Rev 12:9) It is at the end of the millennium that the dragon is "released for a short time". (Rev 20:3)
The "dragon" is the deceiver, he doesn't come out of the woodworks. He remains the power behind the authority given to the rulers of men. (Rev 13:4) The "dragon" simply knows he has a "short time" and he will persecute the woman who gave birth to the male child, which would be Judah.(Rev 12:12)
The nations will "conspire" to "wipe" the nation of "Israel" out. (Psalms 83:4-5) The nations will be judged in the "valley of Jehoshaphat". (Joel 3:2)
The nations will fit the imagery of Dan 2, and will be a combination of the iron (Rome) and common clay. The imagery of red clay, is the imagery of Edom, whose name means "red". Edom could represent the Arabs along with the other nations listed in Psalms 83.
Rev 12 is not speaking of the millennium. This is referring to the time when the dragon is thrown down, meaning, the antichrist is revealed. This is when satan is given full reign, all power and authority. Before then, he has been held back. Look in that chapter and you will see all the attributes of the dragon. What does it look like? Who is it representing? This is the one world government system. One of those heads represents the antichrist. When Jesus returns, he throws satan, the antichrist and the false prophet into the fiery pit. When satan is loosed for a season at the end of the 1,000 years he doesn't come back as the dragon. The antichrist is already in hell, Jesus doesn't release him out at the end. And the nations that come against Israel at Armageddon are destroyed. They can't come back from the dead and be part of that same dragon. Point is: the dragon (satan) represents the NWO as whole, this includes the antichrist. Rev 12 is speaking of the what's to come in the last 3 1/2 years, not the end of the 1,000 years.
All of this is speaking about the end, when Jesus comes back. He has not "restored" them because they have not turned to Jesus. It isn't until He stands on the Mount of Olives when they realized He truly is the Messiah. There are plenty of other scriptures that will coincide with this to show you all of this pertains to the end.
Dear Juni,
Jerusalem is a place and does not realize anything. As for Joel 2:28, "I will pour out my Spirit on all mankind; your old men will dream dreams...I will display wonders in the sky,...the moon into blood."
As for the pouring out of the Spirit, the head rabbi in Jerusalem just died leaving his letter saying he had a dream that Yeshua was the messiah. The Rabbi, the Note and the Messiah - Israel Today | Israel News
As for the "moon into blood", that happened on Passover during the Israeli war of 1948, 1967, and 1973. It will happen again this year.
You need to give your "Scripture" and not your assurances. I am full of daily assurances from dictator Obama. Isaiah 24 "Behold, the Lord lays the earth waste,... the earth is also polluted by its inhabitants, for they transgressed laws, violated statutes, broke the everlasting covenant.....therefore, a curse devours the earth,...Therefore, the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men are left... the gate is battered to ruins....he who flees the report of disaster will fall into the pit,..so it will happen in that day, that the Lord will punish the host of heaven,...the kings of the earth, then the moon will be abashed and sun ashamed, for the Lord of hosts will reign on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem.
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Dear Juni,
Jerusalem is a place and does not realize anything. As for Joel 2:28, "I will pour out my Spirit on all mankind; your old men will dream dreams...I will display wonders in the sky,...the moon into blood."
As for the pouring out of the Spirit, the head rabbi in Jerusalem just died leaving his letter saying he had a dream that Yeshua was the messiah. The Rabbi, the Note and the Messiah - Israel Today | Israel News
As for the "moon into blood", that happened on Passover during the Israeli war of 1948, 1967, and 1973. It will happen again this year.
You need to give your "Scripture" and not your assurances. I am full of daily assurances from dictator Obama. Isaiah 24 "Behold, the Lord lays the earth waste,... the earth is also polluted by its inhabitants, for they transgressed laws, violated statutes, broke the everlasting covenant.....therefore, a curse devours the earth,...Therefore, the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men are left... the gate is battered to ruins....he who flees the report of disaster will fall into the pit,..so it will happen in that day, that the Lord will punish the host of heaven,...the kings of the earth, then the moon will be abashed and sun ashamed, for the Lord of hosts will reign on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem.
I have plenty of scripture. I've done nothing but quote scripture in a thread I started a couple weeks ago. I can't keep repeating the same scriptures over and over.
Daniel gives us a description of the four beasts in Dan 7. The vision he saw pertained to the end times, therefore, those are the nations that will be on this earth during the time of the end. John repeated those same beasts in Rev 13. This time, they were depicted as being one beast formed together.
"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority."
Looking at Daniel and Revelation, none of these events have even happened. And that's just two chapters in the Bible. I could list more. You can't base your theories around the blood moons. Yes, there will be a blood moon this year. BUT... who's to say God won't give another blood moon in 7 years? Can NASA predict the second coming of Jesus? No. I have a VERY strong feeling that the last blood moon will be unpredictable. I think the upcoming blood moons have to do with Israel and the Palestinians. I think we are looking to start the final 7 years very soon, placing the temple mount under a sharing arrangement. The Jews will rebuild the 3rd temple and resume animal sacrifices. They have not had a holy place to worship in... What? 2,000 years? Isn't that a HUGE indicator for the upcoming blood moons? We are not in the end times yet. The antichrist hasn't even been revealed. He will stand in the temple claiming to be God. The temple hasn't even been built yet because the peace agreements hasn't even been signed. We will probably see an interim deal instead of an "agreement". Instead of me repeating all the scriptures to prove my point, check out my thread: Countdown To The Final 7 Years
As for your "time" goes, there are plenty of scriptures that tell us how long it will last and what events will occur during these periods.
Daniel 7:25 the little horn (the antichrist) will make war against the saints for time, times, and half a time.
• Time = one year
• Times = two years
• Half a time = half a year
Revelation 11:2 they will trample the holy city for 42 months
Revelation 11:3 and I will give power to my two witnesses 1,260 days
Revelation 12:6 the dragon makes war against the woman Israel for 1,260 days
Revelation 12:14 the woman was given two wings of a great eagle and flew into the wilderness, she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time
Revelation 13:5 he will make war against the saints for 42 months
Yes the battle of Gog and Magog comes thousand years after the second coming of Lord Jesus , as the false prophet and the devil are back deceiving the nations again , as they surround God Children and God destroys the enemies of God and then the Great Judgment of all people and nations comes after this where Lord Jesus is called to judge His creation one last time .......
Yes the battle of Gog and Magog comes thousand years after the second coming of Lord Jesus , as the false prophet and the devil are back deceiving the nations again , as they surround God Children and God destroys the enemies of God and then the Great Judgment of all people and nations comes after this where Lord Jesus is called to judge His creation one last time .......
The battle of Armageddon is the same war as Gog and Magog. Yes, satan is loosed for a time at the end of the 1,000 years but there is not a battle. Where is your scripture to prove satan and the false prophet are both released at the end of the 1,000 years to deceive the nations? As a matter of fact, Rev 20 is very specific and states only satan is released. Then...
"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."
The antichrist is actually a human being. He's just doing the work of satan. There are several depictions of the red dragon, which consists of many nations and rulers. Are they all satan? No, they're just doing his work. Same goes for the antichrist and false prophet, they are human beings who are deceiving people.
This might help some people if they're confused about Gog and Magog...
Never mind that half of all Israelis are Russian by genetics. Oh, they're part of the satan group :O. Look up Kazaks. That's who a lot of modern day Jews are.
Demonize your enemies, if you desire to create a war?
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