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Old 10-08-2014, 12:07 PM
 
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So you have a link to all that? Where did you learn that?
Link for both Pontifex Maximus and the Donation of Constantine was in my post. Not sure how you missed them.
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Old 10-08-2014, 01:40 PM
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They say that Peter was crucified in Rome and buried on the same site as the Vatican , and the place were they buried Peter was found last year under the grounds of the Vatican city ........ Still it was Paul who opened the door by Jesus into the Rome were he had a church from the prison in Rome ....... In the KJV from Acts 12: 4 .......``And when he apprehended him , he put him in prison and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people ``...... See Easter is in the Bible which would be the same time as the Passover ...................Don`t know when Jesus was born as the account is a controversy as it could be from 7BC- 12 AD , as the Gospels seem to be contrary in this area , as the Romans took Historical accounts of their business , the Gospel is based on faith and believers must not undermining the Lord in all contests
The translation in Acts 12:4 in the old KJV Easter is wrong. The new one says Passover, the feast of the Lord. Easter has nothing to do with the resurrection of our Lord, it was a pagan feast. Rome demanded to celebrate the resurrection day already in the second century on Easter in opposition of the eastern Church (Asia Minor). Rome won and so it is today, it is called tradition, but there is no truth in it.
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Old 10-08-2014, 03:34 PM
 
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The translation in Acts 12:4 in the old KJV Easter is wrong. The new one says Passover, the feast of the Lord. Easter has nothing to do with the resurrection of our Lord, it was a pagan feast. Rome demanded to celebrate the resurrection day already in the second century on Easter in opposition of the eastern Church (Asia Minor). Rome won and so it is today, it is called tradition, but there is no truth in it.
The only reason one can link Pagan rituals with Christian rituals is because the Pope at that time told his followers not to forbid Pagan rituals but to incorporate them into the Christians ones. It was good PR, much better than we now see how the Muslims are doing by destroying all the shrines, etc of Christians and other religions. We just saw how they destroyed Jonis' tomb and blew up churches.

So for Easter we have the celebration of Jesus resurrection instead of worshiping the earth by sacrificing children to the pagan Gods. Same for Christmas. We celebrate the Son of God birth and not the sun. Pagans sacrificed virgins and young children to their Gods. The Church stopped that.
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:26 AM
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The only reason one can link Pagan rituals with Christian rituals is because the Pope at that time told his followers not to forbid Pagan rituals but to incorporate them into the Christians ones. It was good PR, much better than we now see how the Muslims are doing by destroying all the shrines, etc of Christians and other religions. We just saw how they destroyed Jonis' tomb and blew up churches.

So for Easter we have the celebration of Jesus resurrection instead of worshiping the earth by sacrificing children to the pagan Gods. Same for Christmas. We celebrate the Son of God birth and not the sun. Pagans sacrificed virgins and young children to their Gods. The Church stopped that.
Easter had nothing to do with worshipping the earth or sacrificing children, it comes from a goddess that came out of an egg, she has many different names, she came to Rome as a Cybele cult 200 BC on Vatican hill. Her lover was Attis, a god born of a virgin, he died and was reborn annually. The fesitval began on Black Friday and ended on Sunday with the celebration of his resurrection. (from General L. Berry, author of "Religions of the world") Now when Christianity started in Rome, Pagans and Christians quarreled bitterly about which of them had the truth, so Christians made the compromise to take the same date, but were rebuked from true Christians that held the traditions of the Apostles. They celebrated the 14th of Nisan, the feast of Passover and the resurrection on the 17th of Nisan. But they were excommunicated from the church and percsecuted and murdered, so Rome won and Constantine made Easter to a law.

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Old 10-09-2014, 08:33 AM
 
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Easter had nothing to do with worshipping the earth or sacrificing children, it comes from a goddess that came out of an egg, she has many different names, she came to Rome as a Cybele cult 200 BC on Vatican hill. Her lover was Attis, a god born of a virgin, he died and was reborn annually. The fesitval began on Black Friday and ended on Sunday with the celebration of his resurrection. (from General L. Berry, author of "Religions of the world") Now when Christianity started in Rome, Pagans and Christians quarreled bitterly about which of them had the truth, so Christians made the compromise to take the same date, but were rebuked from true Christians that held the traditions of the Apostles. They celebrated the 14th of Nisan, the feast of Passover and the resurrection on the 17th of Nisan. But they were excommunicated from the church and percsecuted and murdered, so Rome won and Constantine made Easter to a law.
And the Church was polluted by the weeds who favored that.
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:04 AM
 
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And the Church was polluted by the weeds who favored that.
No, the Church was polluted by the idea that it HAD to be done a certain way with each group fighting for its own way.
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:59 AM
 
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Easter had nothing to do with worshipping the earth or sacrificing children, it comes from a goddess that came out of an egg, she has many different names, she came to Rome as a Cybele cult 200 BC on Vatican hill. Her lover was Attis, a god born of a virgin, he died and was reborn annually. The fesitval began on Black Friday and ended on Sunday with the celebration of his resurrection. (from General L. Berry, author of "Religions of the world") Now when Christianity started in Rome, Pagans and Christians quarreled bitterly about which of them had the truth, so Christians made the compromise to take the same date, but were rebuked from true Christians that held the traditions of the Apostles. They celebrated the 14th of Nisan, the feast of Passover and the resurrection on the 17th of Nisan. But they were excommunicated from the church and percsecuted and murdered, so Rome won and Constantine made Easter to a law.
General L. Berry? Never heard of him.

Constantine legalized Christianity as in it was legal to worship and Christians would not be killed but he had nothing to do with "making Easter the law".
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Old 10-10-2014, 09:12 AM
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General L. Berry? Never heard of him.

Constantine legalized Christianity as in it was legal to worship and Christians would not be killed but he had nothing to do with "making Easter the law".
The feast of Easter was celebrated before the Roman church decided to do the death and resurrection of Jesus on the same date as the pagan feast of Easter, because they wanted not the feasts of the Lord, because they were Jewish, and they excommunicated every one that kept the Shabbat (what is against the word of God) and the ones that celebrated the 17th of Nisan as resurrection day. Even the Quartodeciman dispute will not give the exact reason, it was about the resurrection date, the 17th of Nisan which has disappeared from Christianity because of the Roman Church after heavy persecution. Easter and Christmas are holidays according to law in almost every Chritian country, it goes back to Constantin. The reason you do not know is because for you there is no difference between Easter and Passover. If you google the origins of Easter you will find about L. Berry's book "Religions of this world".
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