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Old 05-02-2014, 04:29 PM
 
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I would remain a Christian?


How about you guys?
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Old 05-02-2014, 05:07 PM
 
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I fully expect this thread to go down quickly.

I understand it would be difficult for many to be a Christian if there was no payoff.
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Old 05-02-2014, 05:12 PM
 
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It has nothing to do with a "payoff", but rather with the logic of the question.

If there were no salvation, and no eternal life, that would mean either that
1) Jesus Christ did not die for our sins, or rise from the dead, OR
2) If he did die for our sins and rise from the dead, it had no effect as far as we are concerned -- which would mean that Jesus Christ was not God.

In either case, what you are asking is "Would you be a Christiain if Christ were not Christ, or if there were no Christ at all?"

The question is therefore a totally illogical contradiction in terms, much along the same line as "If God were not God, would you worship him as God?"

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Old 05-02-2014, 05:31 PM
 
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I would remain a Christian?


How about you guys?
I would, because I have found that following the Bibles guidance in life, leads to the best life possible.
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Old 05-02-2014, 05:37 PM
 
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It has nothing to do with a "payoff", but rather with the logic of the question.

If there were no salvation, and no eternal life, that would mean either that
1) Jesus Christ did not die for our sins, or rise from the dead, OR
2) If he did die for our sins and rise from the dead, it had no effect as far as we are concerned -- which would that Jesus Christ was not God.

In either case, what you are asking is "Would you be a Christiain if Christ were not Christ, or if there were no Christ at all?"

The question is therefore a totally illogical contradiction in terms, much along the same line as "If God were not God, would you worship him as God?"
Excellent response!

But, for the sake of argument, lets just say there is no eternal life. Would you still be a Christian? There is another side to Christianity that has to do with the Sermon on The Mount.
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Old 05-02-2014, 05:40 PM
 
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I would, because I have found that following the Bibles guidance in life, leads to the best life possible.
I agree with you. There is a lot of positivity by trying to live like Jesus did. Nothing wring with that!


Was salvation and eternal life Mother Theresa's motivation? Or was Mother Theresa simply interested in helping others?
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Old 05-02-2014, 05:56 PM
 
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But there is salvation and eternal life.
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Old 05-02-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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Was salvation and eternal life Mother Theresa's motivation? Or was Mother Theresa simply interested in helping others?
Mother Teresa's motivation was love for Christ. As has been noted of her,
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To a man who once saw her cleaning the wounds of a leper and said, "I wouldn't do that for a million dollars," Mother Teresa replied, "Neither would I. But I would gladly do it for Christ."

As Mother Teresa said on more than one occasion, her work and the work of her sisters was "not social work, but religious work." She was never simply interested in helping others; she was focused on expressing her love for Christ by seeing Christ in other people, and then treating them as she would treat Christ.
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Old 05-02-2014, 06:02 PM
 
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Mother Teresa's motivation was love for Christ. As has been noted of her,

As Mother Teresa said on more than one occasion, her work and the work of her sisters was "not social work, but religious work." She was never simply interested in helping others; she was focused on expressing her love for Christ by seeing Christ in other people, and then treating them as she would treat Christ.
And that is an example of living by the standards of the Bible, as Christ is our exemplar. Best life possible.
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Old 05-02-2014, 08:50 PM
 
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If death equates to a sleep without dreams?
I would continue to love, and help others:


"What is mine is yours, if you have need of it."

It's called compassion, which comes from the heart.
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