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Old 05-09-2014, 02:43 AM
 
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As I sat backstage, I could hear the sound of thousands cheering as they waited for me to enter the ring.

“Lord put your covering over me,” I prayed in a whisper. “Use me as a witness. Use me to be a billboard for you."

Punch thy neighbor? 'Fight church' doesn't turn the other cheek – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:06 AM
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They should match different religious believers and atheists as well - that would pretty nice to see.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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"If everybody loves you, you're doing something wrong."

In other words, fight your neighbor, and hate your enemy?
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Old 05-09-2014, 01:30 PM
 
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It's a gimmick. We're seeing a lot of gimmicks nowadays in today's Christianity. No different than a church doing a production of Star Wars on Easter Sunday.
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Old 05-09-2014, 01:44 PM
 
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It's a gimmick.
It's a ministry. Do you have a problem with people having alternative-type churches to reach people who would otherwise never walk into one?

How much time have you spent in the 'hood, Vizio? How much time have you spent in the barrio where something like this will keep kids off the streets and, maybe, light a spark of faith?
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:28 PM
 
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It's a ministry. Do you have a problem with people having alternative-type churches to reach people who would otherwise never walk into one?
Scripture doesn't tell us to "do church" for non-believers. The Church doesn't exist and we don't hold services in order to attract non-Christians. We need to be accepting and loving if a non-Christian comes into a service, but our primary goal on Sunday morning is not to draw in new people.
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How much time have you spent in the 'hood, Vizio? How much time have you spent in the barrio where something like this will keep kids off the streets and, maybe, light a spark of faith?
I've walked the streets of Queens, NY. In Corona I have stood and talked with people where they don't speak English. I recognize that outreaches are a wonderful thing--and we need to do it. But a church service with people beating each other up is not something we should be doing.
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:36 PM
 
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Scripture doesn't tell us to "do church" for non-believers. The Church doesn't exist and we don't hold services in order to attract non-Christians. We need to be accepting and loving if a non-Christian comes into a service, but our primary goal on Sunday morning is not to draw in new people.

Congratulations. You're running a member's only club.

Or a cult.
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:55 PM
 
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Congratulations. You're running a member's only club.

Or a cult.
Nope...anyone is welcome to come in. Anytime. I encourage it. We should be going out and sharing our faith with others--and then they want to come in to the church. But I'm not going to tailor the church service just to please those that are not part of the church.
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Old 05-09-2014, 03:03 PM
 
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Not sure how I feel about this. People don't beat each other up in Heaven. I totally get doing outreaches to groups that otherwise wouldn't step in a church but this is slightly pushing it.
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Old 05-09-2014, 03:17 PM
 
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People don't beat each other up in Heaven.
Exactly right!
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