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Jesus is the great physician. Ultimately we will all be fully healed. That is what salvation is: salvation from all that ails us, physical and mental - salvation from sin and the wages of that sin - death.
The salient part of the bold above - salvation from death. I will go with that, but that's deliverance, not healing.
Death is separation from the source of life. I am curious to your opinion as to why the wages of sin is death? Why is separation from God (the Source of life) the wage for sin?
You (collectively) have continuously stated that all will be saved - from death. Why did Eusebias pray for him to be saved when it is going to happen anyway - according to you?
Eusebias - Repeating my questions...
God saves him for God. What does that mean?
And who cares if he is blind to the truth? Why does that warrant salvation?
You (collectively) have continuously stated that all will be saved - from death. Why did Eusebias pray for him to be saved when it is going to happen anyway - according to you?
Maybe Eube takes 1 Timothy seriously, including the part that says, Pray for all people... [because] that pleases God who wills all to be saved (sozo) and to come to the knowledge of truth.
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Originally Posted by DRob
Salvation is not healing. Are you kidding me?
Have you ever looked at the word saved/sozo in the strong's concordance?
One definition:
to save a suffering one (from perishing), i.e. one suffering from disease, to make well, heal, restore to health
Maybe Eube takes 1 Timothy seriously, including the part that says, Pray for all people... [because] that pleases God who wills all to be saved (sozo) and to come to the knowledge of truth.
Have you ever looked at the word saved/sozo in the strong's concordance?
One definition:
to save a suffering one (from perishing), i.e. one suffering from disease, to make well, heal, restore to health
Eusebias is perfectly capable of telling me what was meant by the post - which I am still waiting for an answer.
Sozo - you give a secondary definition slanted to your viewpoint. Par for the course ...
Eusebias is perfectly capable of telling me what was meant by the post - which I am still waiting for an answer.
Sozo - you give a secondary definition slanted to your viewpoint. Par for the course ...
It's obvious why things are ignored and rather insist on only one definition.
There is no intention of believing the truth other than to parse it into pieces to make into a prescribed story line.
It's obvious why things are ignored and rather insist on only one definition.
There is no intention of believing the truth other than to parse it into pieces to make into a prescribed story line.
I never said there was only one definition... As a matter of fact, I said it was ONE definition. I was simply reminding drob of that since he'd either forgotten or didn't know.
Eusebias is perfectly capable of telling me what was meant by the post - which I am still waiting for an answer.
Sozo - you give a secondary definition slanted to your viewpoint. Par for the course ...
Slanted definition huh?...
Sozo
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The NAS New Testament Greek LexiconStrong's Number: 4982 Original WordWord Originsozofrom a primary sos (contraction for obsolete saoz, "safe")Transliterated WordTDNT EntrySozo7:965,1132Phonetic SpellingParts of Speechsode'-zo Verb Definition
to save, keep safe and sound, to rescue from danger or destruction
one (from injury or peril)
to save a suffering one (from perishing), i.e. one suffering from disease, to make well, heal, restore to health
to preserve one who is in danger of destruction, to save or rescue
to save in the technical biblical sense
negatively 1b
to deliver from the penalties of the Messianic judgment 1b
to save from the evils which obstruct the reception of the Messianic deliverance
Ah, the power of google to make one eat their words. MMmm...words:
The NAS New Testament Greek LexiconStrong's Number: 4982 Original WordWord Originsozofrom a primary sos (contraction for obsolete saoz, "safe")Transliterated WordTDNT EntrySozo7:965,1132Phonetic SpellingParts of Speechsode'-zo Verb Definition
to save, keep safe and sound, to rescue from danger or destruction
one (from injury or peril)
to save a suffering one (from perishing), i.e. one suffering from disease, to make well, heal, restore to health
to preserve one who is in danger of destruction, to save or rescue
to save in the technical biblical sense
negatively 1b
to deliver from the penalties of the Messianic judgment 1b
to save from the evils which obstruct the reception of the Messianic deliverance
Ah, the power of google to make one eat their words. MMmm...words:
Uh... look at the location of what she dug up - two levels inside of the outline. It's a secondary definition. Don't you understand how to read an outline format? Or do you look and say - 'hey, it's a #1 item, it must be a primary definition'. You can't even consider that a secondary definition - which is the 1 thru 4 list.
You pretty much made my point.
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