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I'm new to the site, but not a new Christain. I have been googling to try to find out the "context" in which Brother Hagee made his controversial statements. I'm familiar with his ministry and find it hard to believe he is an apostate. It reminds me of the comments made by Ann Coulter, which were taken way out of context by people who seem to be ignorant of the Scriptures.
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I'm new to the site, but not a new Christain. I have been googling to try to find out the "context" in which Brother Hagee made his controversial statements. I'm familiar with his ministry and find it hard to believe he is an apostate. It reminds me of the comments made by Ann Coulter, which were taken way out of context by people who seem to be ignorant of the Scriptures.
dave
A search on youtube ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8khCJTDD44) reveals he has clearly gone the way of a heretic. He's been leaning this way for sometime now. He does not know the Bible with his openly endtime support for "Israel" He's just another one of these that thinks they can "hurry" Christ by doing things with "Israel."
I'm new to the site, but not a new Christain. I have been googling to try to find out the "context" in which Brother Hagee made his controversial statements. I'm familiar with his ministry and find it hard to believe he is an apostate. It reminds me of the comments made by Ann Coulter, which were taken way out of context by people who seem to be ignorant of the Scriptures.
dave
Read the thread about van impe below or better yet,you could search this site or someother christian sites about televangelist and you will find hagee. He is like most of the other televangelist..money ,money,money. He lives on a huge ranch for crying out loud. Why doesn`t he scale back his lifestyle and give the money to help the poor like his God tells him to do? No,he would rather spend his money on elaborate tv sets and horses etc. obviously that is more important to him. Doesn`t God say don`t store up treasures on earth? I also have trouble listening to someone who says he is called of God,has the calling of God in his life,so much so that he is on the world stage being the voice of God, interpreting God`s word and he doesn`t have the discipline over his own body. Maybe he has some kind of problem that can`t be controlled but if he is aligning himself with the likes of copeland then he will tell you that God will cure you of any physical or mental ailment. If you are not receiving healing then you don`t have enough faith. Like most televangelist it`s all about fame and fortune. Just because someone holds a bible in their hand and can quote scripture..some of it falsely.. does not make him a man of God. I`ve seen him lately on Kenneth Copelands telethon. `Let`s give the lord a shout of praise in the house of God`.
Thank you for your responses. I've watched him on and off over the years and have found nothing to suggest that he denies the Diety, the Resurrection, or any of the other fundamentals.
I've seen some of the youtube and other stuff, but I'm not sure what he's insinuating. If he's saying that Christ is not the Messiah for Israel, then that is obviously wrong. But if he's saying that Christ did not come to earth the first time to be Messiah (in the sense of setting up his kingdom), then isn't that correct? (Meaning that He came to earth to die for sin the first time, and will come to earth the second time to set up His kingdom).
See what I mean? I want to give Brother Hagee the benefit of the doubt and I think he was suggesting the latter.
I've been to his site and did not find a rebuttal, but I haven't been in the last week or so.
Here's his response regarding the earlier statements he had made. I guess he made these claims then, once confronted with them, was asked if he would like to respond to the issue.
I wasn't aware of this until you just brought it up. So I have been reading about it for a while now and I am shocked at some of the things he said. However, you could possibly be correct as far as the first coming to earth.
I've listened to him a little bit on the radio, but not much. This is why it's dangerous for believers to trust in man's interpretation rather than relying on God to reveal Himself to us.
Here's his response regarding the earlier statements he had made. I guess he made these claims then, once confronted with them, was asked if he would like to respond to the issue.
I wasn't aware of this until you just brought it up. So I have been reading about it for a while now and I am shocked at some of the things he said. However, you could possibly be correct as far as the first coming to earth.
I've listened to him a little bit on the radio, but not much. This is why it's dangerous for believers to trust in man's interpretation rather than relying on God to reveal Himself to us.
Here's his response regarding the earlier statements he had made. I guess he made these claims then, once confronted with them, was asked if he would like to respond to the issue.
I wasn't aware of this until you just brought it up. So I have been reading about it for a while now and I am shocked at some of the things he said. However, you could possibly be correct as far as the first coming to earth.
I've listened to him a little bit on the radio, but not much. This is why it's dangerous for believers to trust in man's interpretation rather than relying on God to reveal Himself to us.
Thank you for digging that up for me (Hagee's response). It is an acceptable response imo. I have heard many, many preachers say the same thing over the years, just using different symantics. We have to be careful not to accept the first apparently misspoken comment from Christians. I'm sure I've said things that, taken out of context, could be misconstrued as herectical when they are not.
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Thank you for digging that up for me (Hagee's response). It is an acceptable response imo. I have heard many, many preachers say the same thing over the years, just using different symantics. We have to be careful not to accept the first apparently misspoken comment from Christians. I'm sure I've said things that, taken out of context, could be misconstrued as herectical when they are not.
dave
Still we have to be very careful there is a flood of every Tom, Dick, and Harry out there attempting to tell us what the Bible says or what God says. They are slick, crafty, manipulative, and deceptive. To tell you the truth I really don't trust any of them only Jesus and the Bible what else do you need?
And that's some of the better advice one could get, when it comes to listening to most, if not all, of these tv evangelists. Particularly the "stop giving to them" part. If folks would use their God-given commons sense, and stop supporting these people, they would go away. There certainly would not be any reason to continue in tv evangelism, if they were not gathering in scads of money. It would be head-spinning just how fast most of these people would jump ship, if the money river suddenly dried up.
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