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Old 06-26-2014, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Arizona
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[quote=Leo58;35396908]
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God started the human race with a single person, then created a wife for him, and built into the system the ability to procreate. quote]

Wrong.

Primitive organisms, and many plants, reproduce asexually. Life forms evolved sexual reproduction because it confers an advantage in genetic diversity and the capacity for adaptation. Even some bacteria are able to swap DNA in a process called conjugation. Yeast have two mating types, a and alpha, and can reproduce "sexually" or asexually. All higher animals of course have two sexes. Humans evolved from ape-like ancestors, so naturally we also have two genders.
Wrong...
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:54 PM
 
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[quote=Leo58;35396908]
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God started the human race with a single person, then created a wife for him, and built into the system the ability to procreate. quote]

Wrong.

Primitive organisms, and many plants, reproduce asexually. Life forms evolved sexual reproduction because it confers an advantage in genetic diversity and the capacity for adaptation. Even some bacteria are able to swap DNA in a process called conjugation. Yeast have two mating types, a and alpha, and can reproduce "sexually" or asexually. All higher animals of course have two sexes. Humans evolved from ape-like ancestors, so naturally we also have two genders.
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Really? Which part? Your not aware that some organisms reproduce asexually?
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:54 PM
 
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No, but man derived from other life forms which had already evolved sexual dimorphism.

Funny, in Genesis it says that God created Man as male-only, even though he had already created all of the animals as male and female. Then, one by one, he brought other species to Adam, but no suitable "helpmate" could be found, and only then did He hit on the idea of creating Woman. If you really believe this, then you must think God is pretty stupid.
Sorry, wrong again. God created Adam', the word derived from the Hebrew word for red earth. Adam was made in the image of God, and God has male and female aspects. Presumably, Adam originally had aspects of both male and female, but it doesn't specify this information. The account in Genesis doesn't use the word "male", it uses "man", which was translated from Adam', but unfortunately, in our culture, we often presume that the word "man" means "male", not figuring that a word like this, such as "mankind" refers to the whole human race, male AND female.

When God brought all of the animals before Adam, Adam named them all, which shows that God had also taught Adam all the different aspects of each animal, because each animal name contained a description of the animal. This shows us the ultra superior intellect of Adam, in that he had knowledge of these things; i.e. not only what the animal looked like, but what its purpose was along with all of its characteristics. And by giving Adam all of this knowledge, God was also teaching Adam that the male and female of each animal worked together to produce not only offspring, but also worked together in other ways depending on the animal. It also showed Adam that there were no creatures in the animal world that could be a co-equal with Adam, and the knowledge that Adam obtained by having superior knowledge of the WHOLE animal kingdom made Adam realize, through hands on observance, that a helpmate for Adam was not available from animals. This had little to do with giving Adam a mate for procreation, it was about Adam realizing that he was superior to the animal world in intelligence and he could not find an equal there. God loves to teach through experience.
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:59 PM
 
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Make sure you readers and posters check out the member quotes being copied in this thread. It seems that the system is quoting things and attaching the wrong member's name to many of them, so beware...Post 224 through 232 come under this warning.
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Old 06-26-2014, 02:01 PM
 
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Sorry, wrong again. God created Adam', the word derived from the Hebrew word for red earth. Adam was made in the image of God, and God has male and female aspects. Presumably, Adam originally had aspects of both male and female, but it doesn't specify this information. The account in Genesis doesn't use the word "male", it uses "man", which was translated from Adam', but unfortunately, in our culture, we often presume that the word "man" means "male", not figuring that a word like this, such as "mankind" refers to the whole human race, male AND female.

When God brought all of the animals before Adam, Adam named them all, which shows that God had also taught Adam all the different aspects of each animal, because each animal name contained a description of the animal. This shows us the ultra superior intellect of Adam, in that he had knowledge of these things; i.e. not only what the animal looked like, but what its purpose was along with all of its characteristics. And by giving Adam all of this knowledge, God was also teaching Adam that the male and female of each animal worked together to produce not only offspring, but also worked together in other ways depending on the animal. It also showed Adam that there were no creatures in the animal world that could be a co-equal with Adam, and the knowledge that Adam obtained by having superior knowledge of the WHOLE animal kingdom made Adam realize, through hands on observance, that a helpmate for Adam was not available from animals. This had little to do with giving Adam a mate for procreation, it was about Adam realizing that he was superior to the animal world in intelligence and he could not find an equal there. God loves to teach through experience.
trumpethim,
That was a most excellent reply. I hope people take the time to really let your words sink in.
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Old 06-26-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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trumpethim,
That was a most excellent reply. I hope people take the time to really let your words sink in.
I'm glad you have company Eusie.
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Old 06-26-2014, 03:06 PM
 
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When God brought all of the animals before Adam, Adam named them all, which shows that God had also taught Adam all the different aspects of each animal, because each animal name contained a description of the animal. This shows us the ultra superior intellect of Adam, in that he had knowledge of these things; i.e. not only what the animal looked like, but what its purpose was along with all of its characteristics. And by giving Adam all of this knowledge, God was also teaching Adam that the male and female of each animal worked together to produce not only offspring, but also worked together in other ways depending on the animal. It also showed Adam that there were no creatures in the animal world that could be a co-equal with Adam, and the knowledge that Adam obtained by having superior knowledge of the WHOLE animal kingdom made Adam realize, through hands on observance, that a helpmate for Adam was not available from animals. This had little to do with giving Adam a mate for procreation, it was about Adam realizing that he was superior to the animal world in intelligence and he could not find an equal there. God loves to teach through experience.
I wonder what Adam thought of Neanderthals. Did he name them, thinking they were animals? Did they come about later?

Inquiring minds need to know.
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:08 PM
 
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. God loves to teach through experience.
I agree. And through our collective experience, especially the findings of science, God is teaching us that the Bible is not meant to be interpreted literally.
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Arizona
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I wonder what Adam thought of Neanderthals. Did he name them, thinking they were animals? Did they come about later?

Inquiring minds need to know.
I don't think he saw them. They came later, delivered to the planet via alien spaceships!!! Or, wait! They are the missing link, aren't they? Then again, Neanderthal DID try to get a TV series going after his GEICO stint, but the other Neanderthals cried "racism", so he disappeared. I think he committed suicide, didn't he?

Well, one thing I know for sure. Momma said, "Always follow the money". And since Adam is not a profitable item, it HAS to take a back seat, true or not. Remember...profit comes first, right?
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Arizona
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I agree. And through our collective experience, especially the findings of science, God is teaching us that the Bible is not meant to be interpreted literally.
It should read, "And through our collective experience, especially the findings of science, God is "allowing" us to be taught that the Bible is not meant to be interpreted literally." God loves to allow us to wallow in the muck until we realize that we have been existing in a system built upon self-aggrandizement.

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