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Your paradox is that your "authoritative" book says that the Spirit will guide, but you deny authority to that spirit and vest it all in the book that tells about rhat Spirit. Does not compute.
Add: If the Spirit is authority then it does not need the book and the history of the production of that book warrants the denial of authority TO that book.
God's Holy Spirit does not need the book; WE need the book to verify that the 'spirit' we are listening to is the Spirit of God or a false spirit. Even God's Holy Spirit, like Jesus did when He was on earth, operates within the parameters provided by God through the prophets and recorded in the written Word of God.
The great danger facing many who claim ONLY to be led by 'the spirit' - is the presumption that 'the spirit they are listening to is God's --and the Bible is wrong,... whenever the Bible says something that they or their denomination disagree with!
ADD: "God is not the author of confusion"; also "All scripture is inspired by God ...." and "no prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation ....." The history and production of the Bible as God’s written Word of Truth, absolutely support God's inspiration and authority.
The Gospels did not exist at the time of the book of Acts yet they came to rely on the spirit with a constant hammering out of doctrine with each chapter. They relaxed what they could eat, who they could except into the fold and if circumcision was necessary all the time having to move about because of persecution.
The Gospels did not exist at the time of the book of Acts yet they came to rely on the spirit with a constant hammering out of doctrine with each chapter. They relaxed what they could eat, who they could except into the fold and if circumcision was necessary all the time having to move about because of persecution.
Yep and where did that spirit direct them?
KJV Acts 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
Yep the spirit led them to .............. Amos 9:11
Scripture.
They relied on Scripture to show the leading of the spirit was God's spirit, they did not rely on any claim simply to have God's spirit.
Spirit led is scripture led.
Written by their authors and Matthew was first. Not Mark. I know modern thought, to support new ideas, claims Mark first, but history doesn't.
Absolutely wrong. All reputable Biblical scholars are unanimous in asserting that Mark was the first gospel written, shortly after the fall of Jerusalem circa 70-75 AD. The fact that Matthew and Luke lifted whole parts out of Mark is indisputable evidence of this.
The version of Matthew that is derived from Greek texts would be a later addition most likely. The book was first given in Hebrew text according to the historian of the time which was Josephus. Therefore, Mark could certainly have been known in the Greek before Matthews text. I have what some scholars think could be the earliest form of that Hebrew text in the George Howard version of the translation from Shem Tov's version that he used to quote and remark on it in arguments against Christians. The book is no longer in print and has some very interesting deviations from the Greek text.
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Whoa there! I very much doubt that Josephus said any such thing. Please give your reference. Name dropping isn't evidence.
And please name the "scholars" you are referring to and cite your references.
The oldest extant copies of Mark's gospel end at Mark 16:8. The present "Longer Ending" was added in the second century and the "Freer Login" was added in the fourth. The Freer Login has been dropped from modern bibles. But I believe Augustine quoted it.
The Gospels did not exist at the time of the book of Acts yet they came to rely on the spirit with a constant hammering out of doctrine with each chapter. They relaxed what they could eat, who they could except into the fold and if circumcision was necessary all the time having to move about because of persecution.
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Are you claiming that the Book of Acts was written after the Gospel of John written later than 95 AD?
God's Holy Spirit does not need the book; WE need the book to verify that the 'spirit' we are listening to is the Spirit of God or a false spirit. Even God's Holy Spirit, like Jesus did when He was on earth, operates within the parameters provided by God through the prophets and recorded in the written Word of God.
The great danger facing many who claim ONLY to be led by 'the spirit' - is the presumption that 'the spirit they are listening to is God's --and the Bible is wrong,... whenever the Bible says something that they or their denomination disagree with!
ADD: "God is not the author of confusion"; also "All scripture is inspired by God ...." and "no prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation ....." The history and production of the Bible as God’s written Word of Truth, absolutely support God's inspiration and authority.
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ADD: "God is not the author of confusion"; also "All scripture is inspired by God ...." and "no prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation
Can't anyone write that in any book if they want to claim it is divine in origin?
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