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Old 06-19-2014, 12:52 PM
 
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Yes, they do, but thanks for sharing your personal view.
No they don't, they say God loves sinners out of one side of the mouth, then it is like they have forgotten God loved them in their state of sin, and then procede to think tbey have the right to judge and condemn sinners to eternal hell out of the other side of their mouth.
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Old 06-19-2014, 01:43 PM
 
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Since a fundamentalist Christian is someone who holds to the basic tenets of Christian faith and teaching of Jesus, it is obvious Jesus is a fundamentalist.
Mainstream Christianity has ignored the fundamental message of Christ: agape love . . . and made it almost an afterthought while focusing on irrelevant dogma and "precepts and doctrines of men." Christ instructed His disciples to believe Him and "love God and each other" daily and repent when they didn't . . . not focus on making sure they believe the right things ABOUT Him and God.
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That might be true if fundamentalists held to the fundamentals of what Jesus taught, but they don't. They hold to the fundamental doctrines developed in the institutional church over the centuries.
Amen, nate!
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Yes, they do, but thanks for sharing your personal view.
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No they don't, they say God loves sinners out of one side of the mouth, then it is like they have forgotten God loved them in their state of sin, and then proceed to think they have the right to judge and condemn sinners to eternal hell out of the other side of their mouth.
Amen, pcamps! Christ's Gospel is a message of love and reconciliation . . . NOT the OT fear and condemnation doctrine of "filthy rags."
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:02 PM
 
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Even though orthodox christianity is holding our failure to hit the mark against us, God is not. Now that is life changing good news.
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Old 06-19-2014, 03:13 PM
 
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Mainstream Christianity has ignored the fundamental message of Christ: agape love . . . and made it almost an afterthought while focusing on irrelevant dogma and "precepts and doctrines of men."
Not true, but thanks for trying to define the beliefs of other people. It's too bad you get it wrong every time you try.

PS You gave an "amen" a post by pcamps which contradicted itself, You'd be better off giving the "amen" based on message, as opposed who made the comment.
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Old 06-19-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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Mark 7:13
Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
Etc.
Once again, you confuse the word of God with words written in ink. They are not an identity and specifying that some of the words written were from God does not mean that all of the writings are.
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Old 06-19-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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Not true, but thanks for trying to define the beliefs of other people. It's too bad you get it wrong every time you try.

PS You gave an "amen" a post by pcamps which contradicted itself, You'd be better off giving the "amen" based on message, as opposed who made the comment.

No, what i said is true. Orthodox christianity holds a world accountable that God says he doesn't. Possessed by that belief it lives in defeat and condemnation of all that does not agree with its beliefs
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Old 06-19-2014, 04:09 PM
 
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Jesus cannot be Sola Scriptura. He created NEW ground.

And the NT says many things Jesus said and did were not recorded in Scripture.

And the OT is barbaric.
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Old 06-19-2014, 04:21 PM
 
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Jesus cannot be Sola Scriptura. He created NEW ground.

And the NT says many things Jesus said and did were not recorded in Scripture.

And the OT is barbaric.
It all depends how you like and keep your wine. The new wine skin is a completely new concept of God. prepare to meet your God." Amos 4:12 how ? By matching your concept of God with Jesus Christ.

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Old 06-19-2014, 07:19 PM
 
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Mainstream Christianity has ignored the fundamental message of Christ: agape love . . . and made it almost an afterthought while focusing on irrelevant dogma and "precepts and doctrines of men." Christ instructed His disciples to believe Him and "love God and each other" daily and repent when they didn't . . . not focus on making sure they believe the right things ABOUT Him and God.Amen, nate!
Amen, pcamps! Christ's Gospel is a message of love and reconciliation . . . NOT the OT fear and condemnation doctrine of "filthy rags."
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Not true, but thanks for trying to define the beliefs of other people. It's too bad you get it wrong every time you try.
The hellfire and brimstone message of mainstream Christianity is completely incompatible with agape love . . . so it can NOT have anything to do with God. It is a rejection of agape love which IS the fundamental message of Christ's Gospel. God IS love. Everyone who loves is "born of God"
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Old 06-19-2014, 07:32 PM
 
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The hellfire and brimstone message of mainstream Christianity is completely incompatible with agape love . . . so it can NOT have anything to do with God. It is a rejection of agape love which IS the fundamental message of Christ's Gospel. God IS love. Everyone who loves is "born of God"
You said Christianity has ignored "agape love", which is obviously not true, and not you deflect to talking about hell.

The gospel can be summarized to one verse: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

It is about love, and it also happens to be the cornerstone of fundamental Christianity.

Please stop misrepresenting the beliefs of other people. You are not being honest.
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