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Old 07-11-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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The Tanakh is not the OT....
Yes it is. Tanakh is an acronym for the Torah - the first five Books of the Old Testament, the Navi - Prophets (the prophetical Books of the Old Testament), and the Ketuvim - Writings. All these Books make up what we call the Old Testament. Jews don't like the designation - 'Old Testament', but that is how Christians refer to those books. Jews prefer the name Tanakh.

The Tanakh [Full Text] | Jewish Virtual Library
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Though the terms "Bible" and "Old Testament" are commonly used by non-Jews to describe Judaism's scriptures, the appropriate term is "Tanach," which is derived as an acronym from the Hebrew letters of its three components: Torah, Nevi'im and Ketuvim.

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Old 07-11-2014, 05:00 PM
 
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HaMoshiach Yeshua...He was Jewish, dude....
and the Bible calls him "Jesus", dude.
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Old 07-11-2014, 05:02 PM
 
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So Mary actually named Him Jesus???....
Can you show me a text that says she named him Yeshua? The text says "Jesus"-- or the Greek variation of it. It doesn't say Yeshua.
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Old 07-11-2014, 05:03 PM
 
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Good grief...And you're a Pastor?....
Yes. I teach the Bible. I've seen that you don't seem to have much use for what the text actually says, though.
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Old 07-11-2014, 05:06 PM
 
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Actually, no. The Gospel is not that we should emulate anyone or walk as anyone did. None of us can walk blameless and be without sin. If that's what you're trying to do, you may as well be like the apostle Paul and proclaim that your good works are like filthy menstrual rags.
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Good grief...And you're a Pastor?....
Tnat attitude is the reason the majority mainstream churches are anti-Christ (anti-love) apostate in these "latter days" as prophesied, Richard. They don't think they need to DO the Father's Will (agape love) on earth as it is in heaven.
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Old 07-11-2014, 05:28 PM
 
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Maybe this will help: How "Yeshua" Became "Jesus" I have heard Jesus referred to as Yeshua before so am surprised that others have not. I agree with the OP. Most Christians I talk with have written off the OT and if you mention the Ten Commandments, they just stammer. My brother and a friend are off the deep end with the end of times and all the signs. I just change the subject.
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Old 07-11-2014, 05:29 PM
 
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Tnat attitude is the reason the majority mainstream churches are anti-Christ (anti-love) apostate in these "latter days" as prophesied, Richard. They don't think they need to DO the Father's Will (agape love) on earth as it is in heaven.
I bet you had a blast at Woodstock, didn't you?
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Old 07-11-2014, 05:32 PM
 
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Maybe this will help: How "Yeshua" Became "Jesus" I have heard Jesus referred to as Yeshua before so am surprised that others have not. I agree with the OP. Most Christians I talk with have written off the OT and if you mention the Ten Commandments, they just stammer. My brother and a friend are off the deep end with the end of times and all the signs. I just change the subject.
I'm very familiar with people calling him "Yeshua". What I am pointing out though, is that you might as well call him "Bob"....because neither name appears in the Bible referring to him.

In my experience, the people I've met that call him "Yeshua" tend to be legalistic people that think we need to observe the Mosaic Law. They fail to realize that Jesus fulfilled it for us, so that we are not obligated to keep it.
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Old 07-11-2014, 06:07 PM
 
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I'm very familiar with people calling him "Yeshua". What I am pointing out though, is that you might as well call him "Bob"....because neither name appears in the Bible referring to him.

In my experience, the people I've met that call him "Yeshua" tend to be legalistic people that think we need to observe the Mosaic Law. They fail to realize that Jesus fulfilled it for us, so that we are not obligated to keep it.
In my experience people who object tothe use of the Hebrew pronunciation of the name tend to be legalistic and not understand what "fulfillment of the Law" means in practice.
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Old 07-11-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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..Are misguided.

If you read your Bible's with understanding you'd quickly realize that Yeshua read the OT and spoke from it. because He said himself that he came not to "do away" with the Law, but instead FULFILL the Law.

Fulfill = Complete

Fulfill does not = do away with


So for all you NT Christains that think Yeshua has given you a pass to be Sadistic Heahtens in his name....reality check coming soon.


"You foolish Galatians!"

23 Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian

Matthew 22:36-40 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."


Read Galatians 3.


We were STUPID (some will be more polite and say "ignorant") so we needed the law to tell us not to be jealous of others, not to murder, not to steal, etc. Then Christ came and showed us the true NATURE of LOVE. Which IS GOD. God is LOVE, the MOST POWERFUL thing in existence. Again, God IS Love.

We are now to GROW in LOVE. Which IS following Christ.

You should NOT now NEED a law that says "Thou shalt not covet..." "Thou shalt not murder..."

LOVE is your teacher.
GOD is love.
God is in YOUR HEART guiding you.


So many miss the whole point of Christ.
So many preachers and so-called "teachers" are leading so many astray and keeping people bound in chains and ignorance.
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