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Hi, what is impossible for men, is possible for God because He has all power and has already said that He is able to subdue all things to Himself. Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of God the Father. God bless and peace.
Hi, what is impossible for men, is possible for God because He has all power and has already said that He is able to subdue all things to Himself. Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of God the Father. God bless and peace.
He is going to "subdue" even the word of His Son who stated that such a sin will not be forgiven?
Unless, of course, they are not tied to a literal interpretation of the words and consider this and other references to be hyperbole to make a point. It really is going to be a challenge, but "nothing is impossible for God."
Well, at least you are consistent. Take the words of Jesus that fit into one's belief system and deny the rest. It's really a pretty good cop-out.
He is going to "subdue" even the word of His Son who stated that such a sin will
not be forgiven?
Hi, if someone is not forgiven in this age or in the age to come, they suffer the consequences, right? But we know that in the end, all things will be subdued to the Father, including death, the last enemy. God bless and peace.
I remember a Baptist minister (who did not believe in the restoration of all to God) had a lesson and it was about a man who had committed a crime worthy of death. So the man was put to death. The minister said that "if" this man could come back to life after serving his sentence of death, it would be right, because he has already served his sentence. After serving the sentence, he would free to live. Death is not a permanent thing, because Jesus is to abolish it one day. God bless.
Hi, what is impossible for men, is possible for God because He has all power and has already said that He is able to subdue all things to Himself. Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of God the Father. God bless and peace.
Hi, if someone is not forgiven in this age or in the age to come, they suffer the consequences, right? But we know that in the end, all things will be subdued to the Father, including death, the last enemy. God bless and peace.
Unfortunately, you are still left rejecting Jesus' words that one will NOT BE FORGIVEN. No ages are mentioned. Not forgiven appears to mean not forgiven. But if we dwell with God we WILL be forgiven. So Jesus was mistaken or are there further linguistic hurdles to overcome?
Origen was a Christian . . . one of the earliest. Christian universalism was dominant in the early church. Pretending that it is not Christian is bigoted. What you and those who adopted the apostate, anti-Christ version of Christianity did was to brand and ostracize any who disagreed as heretics. What you call traditional Christianity is bigoted Christianity by removing the acceptance that Christ demonstrated to ALL . . . as if it only applies to those who believe the right things ABOUT Christ and God . . . a special group in God's eyes . . . presumably because they appropriately "brown nose" Him. It disparages God as a vain and jealous egotist and makes a mockery of Christ's Gospel of agape love and loving sacrifice to the savagery and barbarity of our ancestors. "No greater agape love . . . "
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Actually Origen was the FIRST universalist, born in 185 C.E., died about 250 C.E.
Not true, his mentor St. Clement of Alexandria was also. There were also other schools, notably in the East that were universalist and many still are. The majority apostate anti-Christ church is not . . . as predicted for the latter days. Remember that even 100 years after Christ (a full century) could easily be considered the latter days . . . let alone the 300 to 500 years it took for the majority to become apostate and deny Origen's universalism as heresy in 553 CE. The majority have been apostate since that time.
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