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Exactly. faith without love might as well be faith in heresy. Give me a person regardless of creed that is baptized in the love of God over anyone who may know all the secrets, and all the knowledge but does not have love. I say these things to myself even when responding to trolls, because i need to keep hearing it until it destroys all that i have allowed through the doors of my heart over the years, after having been purged of orthodox christianity first.
I understand. And what you write is often received as manna from heaven by me, as well.
Let me bold this scripture so you cannot miss it and if I have all the faith, so as to remove mountains, and have not love, I am nothing;
No i am not disputing i am saying faith not expressed through love which are not my words but the words of the bible are worthless. and if I have all the faith, so as to remove mountains, and have not love, I am nothing;
You simply do not get it or refuse to see it....Even the thief's faith was in the love of God and if I have all the faith, so as to remove mountains, and have not love, I am nothing;
You can repeat this obvious truth "and have not love" as many times as you want and it will not penetrate the fear-induced indoctrination in the "precepts and doctrines of men." They test nothing with the Spirit of agape love because they do not believe in it. They do not believe God IS agape love. They think they need to earn His love by believing the right things about Him and His Son. They believe in a vain and jealous God . . . which makes understanding God virtually impossible, pcamps.
And if one does not have a real faith he does not have a real love of God.
That is what Paul means with "And without faith it is impossible to please God". It seems to be an inconvenient verse for some people, but is means what it says. Followers of Christ bring forth the fruits of the Spirit, but without faith you would not be a follower in the first place and the Spirit would not be there to deliver the fruits.
That is what Paul means with "And without faith it is impossible to please God". It seems to be an inconvenient verse for some people, but is means what it says. Followers of Christ bring forth the fruits of the Spirit, but without faith you would not be a follower in the first place and the Spirit would not be there to deliver the fruits.
The problem is not God's love for us, it is our love for God shown in a way pleasing to God, In other words a real love of God, not a love of self.
Two many boast of their love, without showing any.
The problem is not God's love for us, it is our love for God shown in a way pleasing to God, In other words a real love of God, not a love of self.Two many boast of their love, without showing any.
The problem is not God's love for us, it is our love for God shown in a way pleasing to God, In other words a real love of God, not a love of self.
Two many boast of their love, without showing any.
I have not read once on here anyone say that they are more loving than anyone else, there are many though boasting how wonderful the love of God is. You know this is the case too and so does Finn Jarber.
I have not read once on here anyone say that they are more loving than anyone else, there are many though boasting how wonderful the love of God is. You know this is the case too and so does Finn Jarber.
No one has said they are more loving that I am aware of. However who is showing the real love of God and what is it?
Please note; agape is a Greek word, it is what is done to show true agape love that is the question. Is it just love of neighbor and what does that include according to Jesus or what else is involved?
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I understand. And what you write is often received as manna from heaven by me, as well. 
