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Where in this post is there anything off topic. You haven't got an answer to it, so you start saying you are being misrepresented and we are off topic.. You will have to do better than that.
I did not say it was about that post, and I did not say I was being misrepresented. You and pleroo made several off topic posts, and both of you have a history of derailing threads. I am simply asking that you do not do it here.
“The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified. 24 Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit.."
He died to bear fruit, to bring life, to give us life. God bless.
I did not say it was about that post, and I did not say I was being misrepresented. You and pleroo made several off topic posts, and both of you have a history of derailing threads. I am simply asking that you do not do it here.
Which ones then ?.
Well all i have done is reply to your questions, so i have not said anything other than what i believe the Cross of Calvary is about. And for every post on other threads that i have been off topic i can pull up one of yours that is. There is no off topic posts on this thread other than a few days back between myself and another poster.
Could you show the same courtesy and answer the on topic questions.
24 verily, verily, I say to you, if the grain of the wheat, having fallen to the earth, may not die, itself remaineth alone; and if it may die, it doth bear much fruit;
Well all i have done is reply to your questions, so i have not said anything other than what i believe the Cross of Calvary is about.
Could you show the same courtesy and answer the on topic questions.
Actually I am waiting for you to answer the questions I asked few days ago. You asking me questions about hell does not answer them.
In the other hand I am no longer expecting you to answer, so I will let it go. I just hope that now that you have realized you are unable to explain your own view, you consider the possibility your view is not correct.
Do you believe God loved you before Jesus Christ was nailed to the cross ?.
Finn Jarber can you show the same courtesy and start answering questions put to you, and please quit saying your questions have not been answered because you do not like the answers being given.
The cross of calvary was and is about God's love towards us not our sin. Our sin is unbelief in that love and holding onto the beliefs handed down to us that we are not loved and God is mad and holding our sin against us.
Finn Jarber can you show the same courtesy and start answering questions put to you, and please quit saying your questions have not been answered because you do not like the answers being givenThe cross of calvary was and is about God's love towards us not our sin. Our sin is unbelief in that love and holding onto the beliefs handed down to us that we are not loved and God is mad and holding our sin against us.
You have not shown any courtesy of answering questions.
The question was this: If He did not die to settle our sins, then HOW did His death (or anyones death) demonstrate love? I used an example by asking if you would throw yourself under a bus for no other reason than to demonstrate love. The truth is that having yourself killed for no particular reason does NOT show love. It shows love when it is done in place of someone else.
What makes Jesus death an act of love was the fact that it was done so other people could have life. This is what "He died for us" means. You have removed that reason, and in the process you make His death a meaningless act.
The question was this: If He did not die to settle our sins, then HOW did His death (or anyones death) demonstrate love? I used an example by asking if you would throw yourself under a bus for no other reason than to demonstrate love. The truth is that having yourself killed for no particular reason does NOT show love. It shows love when it is done in place of someone else.
What makes Jesus death an act of love was the fact that it was done so other people could have life. This is what "He died for us" means. You have removed that reason, and in the process you make His death a meaningless act.
It has been clearly answered, if it is not a good enough answer for you then so be it?
Please answer the question put to you, i know you won't because you know the answer that God has always loved us proves that calvary is proof of it, and if you believe we have not always been loved of God proves that you had a wrong concept about him towards yourself.
Jesus died for (because of) our sins. Sin=missing the mark, offenses, wrongdoings
Mark 7
And he said -- `That which is coming out from the man, that doth defile the man;
21 for from within, out of the heart of men, the evil reasonings do come forth, adulteries, whoredoms, murders,
22 thefts, covetous desires, wickedness, deceit, arrogance, an evil eye, evil speaking, pride, foolishness;
23 all these evils do come forth from within, and they defile the man.
Sin is the problem and Jesus came to deliver us from this. God's love is shown through the death of Jesus in delivering us from that which defiles us, holds us captive, and destroys, kills us. God bless.
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