What was the purpose of Jesus death? (hell, believe, scriptures)
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Finn, go back and read the posts, evidently you have a hearing problem with the eyes.
Mystics, he either knows and is playing ignorant, or he really does not comprehend.
I have read them.
You said "To believe is not enough, one must act through that of loving others; not condemning them."
So, you believe one must act (work), and I asked you how much work is enough. You have not answered. Why? Your attempts to insult are nothing but a deflection.
That part is obvious, Shana . . . but HOW that was accomplished is where your idea of agape love is somehow corrupted. Agape love could NEVER demand such a horrendous scourging and crucifixion as an appeasement! How on earth can any such requirement for appeasement be reconciled with a pure agape love, Shana?
Laying down your life so others can live is agape love at its very best.
31 Then He took the twelve aside and said to them, “Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and all things which are written through the prophets about the Son of Man will be accomplished. 32 For He will be [i]handed over to the Gentiles, and will be mocked and mistreated and spit upon, 33 and after they have scourged Him, they will kill Him; and the third day He will rise again.” 34 But the disciples understood none of these things, and the meaning of this statement was hidden from them, and they did not comprehend the things that were said."
You said "To believe is not enough, one must act through that of loving others; not condemning them."
So, you believe one must act (work), and I asked you how much work is enough. You have not answered. Why? Your attempts to insult are nothing but a deflection.
But like he said you have a hearing problem because he is not referring to works based salvation or the salvation you adhere to which is salvation from eternal hell, which by the biggest lie ever told by evangelical christians and a mockery of Calvary.
25 And He said to them, “O foolish men and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Was it not necessary for the [f]Christ to suffer these things and to enter into His glory?” 27 Then beginning [g]with Moses and [h]with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.
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44 Now He said to them, “These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” 45 Then He opened their [p]minds to understand the Scriptures, 46 and He said to them, “Thus it is written, that the [q]Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance [r]for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed [s]in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem. 48 You are witnesses of these things. 49 And behold, I am sending forth the promise of My Father upon you; but you are to stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high.”
God bless.
Last edited by ShanaBrown; 08-09-2014 at 05:55 PM..
But like he said you have a hearing problem because he is not referring to works based salvation or the salvation you adhere to which is salvation from eternal hell, which by the biggest lie ever told by evangelical christians and a mockery of Calvary.
I am not the one with the hearing problem, because I clarified the question for him by asking how much works is enough for whatever purpose those works are required. No answer. It seems impossible to get you guys to explain your views.
I am not the one with the hearing problem, because I clarified the question for him by asking how much works is enough for whatever purpose those works are required. No answer. It seems impossible to get you guys to explain your views.
But you assume he is talking about earning a way to heaven, let me tell you he is not.
You said "To believe is not enough, one must act through that of loving others; not condemning them."
So, you believe one must act (work), and I asked you how much work is enough.
You have not answered. Why? Your attempts to insult are nothing but a deflection.
Is everything a Sacrifice, requiring work, therefore it's a hardship for you?
You can love others without condemning them by using only words.
But you assume he is talking about earning a way to heaven, let me tell you he is not.
You are the only one assuming, not me. I can't make the question any clearer than I already did. How much works is required for whatever reason you believe the works are required for?
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