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They don't realize that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God who IS agape love. IF you do not have agape love in your heart you do not understand God or Jesus.
Absolutely right.
1 John 4:8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
Do you have any scripture that say people must believe in this life or they will never be saved? And if there is no scripture that says this, why is it you believe it?
Jesus taught---Only those who live to do Gods will now will enter his kingdom( be saved) Matt 7:21
If one doesn't believe--then they surely are not doing Gods will.
Jesus taught---Only those who live to do Gods will now will enter his kingdom( be saved) Matt 7:21
If one doesn't believe--then they surely are not doing Gods will.
You are the one who added "be saved".
Matthew 7:21 -
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Further, you said:
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If one doesn't believe--then they surely are not doing Gods will.
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Further, you said:
If one doesn't believe what?
peace,
sparrow
Only the saved will enter Gods kingdom--- Jesus taught---Enter through the narrow gate, for cramped is the road that leads off into life( eternal in Gods kingdom)Few will find it. For broad and spacious the path that leads into destruction( not eternal suffering) and many have entered this way.
Not only believe but Jesus taught( to each individual)-- Man does not live by bread alone, but by every utterance from God. Careful study of Gods word to learn and apply every utterance. It takes quite awhile--Few do it.
Do you have any scripture that say people must believe in this life or they will never be saved? And if there is no scripture that says this, why is it you believe it?
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Originally Posted by kjw47
Jesus taught---Only those who live to do Gods will now will enter his kingdom( be saved) Matt 7:21
If one doesn't believe--then they surely are not doing Gods will.
No scripture stating people must believe in this life, just as I knew you would not find one. Therefore you turn to reasoning. Now I am not saying reasoning is a bad thing, however one must reason within the confines of what scripture says and as no scripture says that people must believe in this life or they will never be saved your reasoning comes not from scripture but is human reasoning.
So you cannot show any scripture that states that salvation is only availible in this life, but what if I can show you scripture that states salvation IS availible in the next life, or after death? Would you believe those scriptures?
No scripture stating people must believe in this life, just as I knew you would not find one. Therefore you turn to reasoning. Now I am not saying reasoning is a bad thing, however one must reason within the confines of what scripture says and as no scripture says that people must believe in this life or they will never be saved your reasoning comes not from scripture but is human reasoning.
So you cannot show any scripture that states that salvation is only availible in this life, but what if I can show you scripture that states salvation IS availible in the next life, or after death? Would you believe those scriptures?
How can one possibly accomplish this-John 4:22-24--if they do not believe?
So if one dies in their sins do you have a scripture that states one who dies in their sins cannot be saved?
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the wages of sin is death, and not natural death Romans, you know the one.
again where is the scripture that states people who die in their sins cannot be saved. That scripture does not say anything about people not be saved after death, it just says the wages of sin is death.
This always happens with other beliefs then universal salvation, the other beliefs do not have any scripture that actually say what they believe.
So again show me a scripture that says people cannot be saved after death?
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