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Old 09-11-2014, 03:17 PM
 
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Coming from Ephesians 4:5.

What all Christians have in common is believing 2 Timothy 3:16.

What all Christians have in common is believing 2 Peter 1:20-21.


Believing 2 Timothy 3:16 will leave room to believe 1 Peter 3:3.

Believing 2 Timothy 3:16 will leave room to believe Hebrews 4.

Believing 2 Timothy 3:16 will leave room to believe Proverbs 20:1.

Believing 2 Timothy 3:16 will leave room to believe Romans 7:2-3.

Believing 2 Timothy 3:16 will leave room to believe 1 Timothy 6.

Believing 2 Timothy 3:16 will leave room to believe John 3:5.

Believing 2 Timothy 3:16 will leave room to believe 2 Cor. 6.

Believing 2 Timothy 3:16 will leave room to believe 2 Thess. 3:10.

Believing 2 Timothy 3:16 will leave room to believe Matthew 7:6.


Believing 2 Peter 1:20-21 will leave room to believe Colossians 2:8.

Believing 2 Peter 1:20-21 will leave room to believe 1 John 2:27.

Believing 2 Peter 1:20-21 will leave room to believe Psalms 1.

Believing 2 Peter 1:20-21 will leave room to believe Ephesians 4:14.



ONE FAITH not talking about blood boasters only-----Romans 6:1.

ONE FAITH not talking about a love boy and love girl only----1 John 2:15.

ONE FAITH not talking about optimistic thinking for Jesus to show up and fix
problems only----Romans 12:3.

ONE FAITH not talking about a name and claim everything theology with Jesus
in your corner-----1 Timothy 6.

ONE FAITH not talking about toleration for philosophy conflicting the bible anywhere---Titus 3:10.


This the foundation for real unity----Psalms 133:1.

Yes the foundation for real unity ----John 17:21.

Again the foundation for real unity----Amos 3:3.


Bible unity don't divide up 50 people on 10% of the bible----John 8:32.

Bible unity attracts people to a equal yoke with 100% bible believers----Matthew 5:17-20.



What's your goal with this goal by God ? 1 Thess. 5:12 and Matthew 5:6.


If we attracting a love boy and love girl only have a topless bar with strippers .

If we attracting a blood boaster only rally for polygamy marriages.

If we attracting philosophers only be active in pro choice movements to abort children.

If we attracting prosperity believers only have a filthy lucre enterprise.

If we attracting optimistic people only get into delusions with palm hand readers and soothsayers.
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Old 09-11-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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One faith is in the confidence the love of the Lord Jesus and His Words ............, and not faith in others gods and the world strange ideas of astrology and the occult................. and not faith in reason and logic rejecting faith in Jesus and His Words .............., not faith in money and what if can bring or the lack of ,............... or faith in covetousness of the neighbors things .............., or faith in your work or the boss at work .............,or faith in the doctors poor diagnose for your health ,........... or the sympathy for the works of the devil and venting this to others ..........., and one faith is not rejecting the faith of believers in the church down the road because of the pride of the home church you may have .............
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Old 09-11-2014, 10:12 PM
 
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Perhaps bible believers might read Galatians 2:16* and come to the conclusion that the "one faith" is the faith OF Christ. Not IN Christ. OF Christ.

Understanding what that means might give them trouble, of course.

As I see it the faith OF Christ - the faith that Jesus had and modeled - is simply trusting God because God IS love and God is our "Father". When we recognize who we are - the offspring of LOVE - and as we learn to live in that truth, we will be freed from the idea that we are separated from God and will be transformed by the renewing of our hearts and minds.

*"Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."
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Old 09-11-2014, 10:46 PM
 
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Perhaps bible believers might read Galatians 2:16* and come to the conclusion that the "one faith" is the faith OF Christ. Not IN Christ. OF Christ.

Understanding what that means might give them trouble, of course.

As I see it the faith OF Christ - the faith that Jesus had and modeled - is simply trusting God because God IS love and God is our "Father". When we recognize who we are - the offspring of LOVE - and as we learn to live in that truth, we will be freed from the idea that we are separated from God and will be transformed by the renewing of our hearts and minds.

*"Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."
What version are you using here? The New American Standard version says:

15 “We are Jews by nature and not sinners from among the Gentiles; 16 nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.
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Old 09-11-2014, 11:31 PM
 
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KJV, YLT

Whether it is a subjective or objective genitive is up for debate, obviously, since newer translations have changed it to the objective. That it is subjective - Christ's faith - makes sense to me.
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Old 09-11-2014, 11:36 PM
 
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It's the Faithfulness of Christ.
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Old 09-11-2014, 11:43 PM
 
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It's the Faithfulness of Christ.
I've seen that footnote in some translations. But since I'm a cherry picker, I'm comfortable going with the cherry that tastes best and seems sweetest to me.
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Old 09-11-2014, 11:56 PM
 
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I've seen that footnote in some translations. But since I'm a cherry picker, I'm comfortable going with the cherry that tastes best and seems sweetest to me.
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Old 09-12-2014, 09:46 AM
 
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KJV, YLT

Whether it is a subjective or objective genitive is up for debate, obviously, since newer translations have changed it to the objective. That it is subjective - Christ's faith - makes sense to me.
Which one does the whole of scripture support?
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Old 09-12-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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Which one does the whole of scripture support?
I would say that "the whole of scripture" can be understood to support anything people want it to, generally speaking.

Various passages of the bible indicate that one must believe ON or IN Jesus. What that means is up for debate and I think some Christians might agree that is similar in meaning to my understanding that we must have "the faith OF Christ".

Regardless, that some passages say one must believe on/in Jesus does not preclude that the passage I am speaking of (and Paul has used that particular wording in other passages as well) refers to the subjective faith OF Christ, rather than to objective faith in Christ.
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