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"The Catholics at StrangeNotions.com do not for one moment pretend to be neutral. It is Catholics who have constructed this arena, wrote most of the articles, and who have issued the invitation to dialogue. Thus it is possible for an atheist to regard the whole thing as a cunningly—or not so cunningly—disguised form of propaganda or proselytization. It's certainly no secret that Catholics everywhere, offline and at Strange Notions, want to bring atheists to faith."
This atheist believes there was an historic Jesus.
I don't need an atheist's defense to justify the existence of God. They will suffer if they never acknowledge their savior. The spiritual world lives on as the world does and your choices and beliefs affect what happens to you in and out of this life.
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I don't need an atheist's defense to justify the existence of God. They will suffer if they never acknowledge their savior. The spiritual world lives on as the world does and your choices and beliefs affect what happens to you in and out of this life.
Which is exactly what the followers and believers in Thor felt.
"The Catholics at StrangeNotions.com do not for one moment pretend to be neutral. It is Catholics who have constructed this arena, wrote most of the articles, and who have issued the invitation to dialogue. Thus it is possible for an atheist to regard the whole thing as a cunningly—or not so cunningly—disguised form of propaganda or proselytization. It's certainly no secret that Catholics everywhere, offline and at Strange Notions, want to bring atheists to faith."
I am unclear on what you mean. Are you saying that Catholics invented all of the material about Egyptian mythology that is at variance with the Horus/Jesus claims? All of that material jibes with everything I have ever read about the myths of Egypt and that is quite a bit. And I never encountered any of the Horus/Jesus supposed links.
For the record, I am not a Christian. I happen to strongly suspect that a real historic Jesus existed. (Not for the usual reasons BTW.) But I do not accept any of the supernatural claims. So no apologetics here, just common sense about most of the mythicist claims once one tracks them down.
09-20-2014, 08:20 PM
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I can't link the youtube debate but type in 'Jesus of Nazareth: Man or myth? A discussion with Zeba Crook and Richard Carrier' for a good discussion by two non-believers.
What's crazy to me is why anyone that is truly Christian needs to validate their faith with the statement of a non-believer.
If I believe there is a vaccine to prevent all cancer but refuse to take the vaccine, where am I? Do you think physicians would post videos of people refusing to to take the vaccine saying they believe it's legit?
Move on to important topics and let atheists stick with theirs---unless, of course, they show signs of being convicted by the Holy Spirit.
What's crazy to me is why anyone that is truly Christian needs to validate their faith with the statement of a non-believer.
Be ready always to give an answer to every man who asketh you a reason for the hope that is in you.
~ 1 Peter 3:15
Answer is the word Greek word apologia, meaning a reasoned statement or argument. If you want to be able to give a reasoned statment, don't be like the two nut job conspiracy theorists above that asserted the Horus comparison as true. Instead, actually understand what well reasoned people (atheist and Christian alike) say about the historical Jesus.
Be ready always to give an answer to every man who asketh you a reason for the hope that is in you.
~ 1 Peter 3:15
Answer is the word Greek word apologia, meaning a reasoned statement or argument. If you want to be able to give a reasoned statment, don't be like the two nut job conspiracy theorists above that asserted the Horus comparison as true. Instead, actually understand what well reasoned people (atheist and Christian alike) say about the historical Jesus.
Yes, it means if someone asks. Nobody did. A Christian posted a link thinking that what some atheist stated about a historical Jesus should somehow validate faith.
I studied comparative religions. Do you think that because I believe there was an historical Buddha that Buddhists should consider my validation as a Christian of Buddha's life should mean anything to Buddhists?
To me this thread is indicative of how very weak the faith is of many claiming to be followers of Christ.
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