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"The subpoena is part of an ongoing controversy in Houston, where some are opposed to a law which allows men who identify as women to use the ladies bathroom, and vice versa. Opponents of the bill filed a lawsuit, so the city issued subpoenas"
So they want men who think they are women to be able to use the women's restrooms? Nice set up for rapists isn't it, a man who pretends to think he is a woman can use that restroom. OOOKKKKAAAAYYYYYY Nice even for voyeurs.
My first thought was that it's Christ's power - not Christians' power.
Then I thought - what power do we have other than we appear to be more in number?
We really have nothing without being unified in Christ, but the world recognizes the power we actually could have in being united. That is why I believe they attack us as opposed to other religions. I mean those same individuals who protest Chick Fil-A haven't had the same kind of protest against these gas stations who get their oil from Saudi Arabia, who goes as far as even killing homosexuals. This is clearly an attack on Christianity. This is all very much demonically influenced. If their purpose was really to stop talk against homosexuality in general, Christians wouldn't be the only ones called out.
Oh, pul-eeze. The CHAMPIONS of judgmental are the group of Houston pastors who have decided the LGBT community need to be pushed back into the closet.
So you think it's okay to create laws against discriminating against a select group of preachers? Are Christians really the only group of people who disagree with homosexuality? Shouldn't you, as a self-professing Christian, be concerned that you could very well be censored by the things that you say? Not only should these actions disturb you based on your beliefs but also based on your citizenship as an American.
Yet no one has been able on this thread, or the dozen others concerned with homosexuality, to prove chaos and disorder because homosexuals get married. All they've done is revealed their prejudices and preference of approving some sin (usually their own) and castigating what they consider someone else's sin. Not one bit of evidence how homosexual marriage has harmed society.
It's that kind of understanding of scripture that Jesus fought tooth and nail against. And what ultimately led to His crucifixion.
Those Pharisees whom He condemned were very pious men. No doubt the Pharisee farmer left food on the ground for the poor to garnish--it was in the Law!! But no doubt also that he did it for HIS OWN benefit, not for the benefit of the poor.
Jesus taught us about having something different in our hearts. Pray for your enemies. Genuine prayer for their good, for their health, for wonderful things to happen to them. Not at all like His follower Paul who wrote we should pray for our enemies in order to heap burning coals on their heads.
But the sense I get from today's Pharisees is that while they talk about loving gays or being kind with those sinners--they are Pauline Christians hoping to heap burning coals on their heads.
That may be in the Bible, but it in no way reflects the actions or words of the Son of God. Having scripture--searching it to find sin in others--make proclamations about the sin in others which in reality is another way of saying, "Thank God, I'm not a sinner like that one over there,"---all are representative of those who have religion but have not found the richness in experiencing the love of Christ.
That's not true at all. Jesus condemned the Pharisees because of their hearts. Sure, they did things righteously but they were people with hardened hearts. For anyone to truly understand anything about Jesus, then of course you would understand why he would be against them since what they did defeated the whole purpose of him being brought to earth. We could be saved by our works alone, then there would be no need for Jesus, no need for grace and no need for salvation since the law would already fulfill those things. He was showing people that these individuals were hypocrites. They weren't doing these things out of love but because it made them look good in the eyes of people.
To your point, what does it really mean to love gays? I can have respect and love a gay person without agreeing with homosexuality, could I not? Growing up, did your parents agree with everything that you did? Does affirmation equal love? Can you disagree with someone and still love them? If you agree with those things, then how is love not being shown?
Not only should these actions disturb you based on your beliefs but also based on your citizenship as an American.
Now there's a VERY controlling attitude. You're promoting group-think and attitude. Your group. Which I'm not the least bit interested in since I have a working brain and I'm not a conservative fundamentalist.
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Wow. That's an attitude straight out of Orwell's "1984". Very Big Brother-ish. Telling other people to get in line and follow group-think.
No thanks.
You clearly didn't understand what I said. I am speaking about NOT trying to control other people and how to think.
The irony with your statement is you condone it when it matches your beliefs but disagree with it when it doesn't match. Wolves' clothes feel different than sheep's clothing.
You told me those actions should disturb me. That's controlling.
But.....since you think I don't understand your posts..... I'll just go back to ignoring them. That'll work.
Yes because it violates your rights. Unless you simply do not care about your rights? You don't like being told what to do, yet you are okay with this mayor telling other people what to do. Oh the irony. We know you won't ignore my posts.
That's not true at all. Jesus condemned the Pharisees because of their hearts. Sure, they did things righteously but they were people with hardened hearts. For anyone to truly understand anything about Jesus, then of course you would understand why he would be against them since what they did defeated the whole purpose of him being brought to earth. We could be saved by our works alone, then there would be no need for Jesus, no need for grace and no need for salvation since the law would already fulfill those things. He was showing people that these individuals were hypocrites. They weren't doing these things out of love but because it made them look good in the eyes of people.
To your point, what does it really mean to love gays? I can have respect and love a gay person without agreeing with homosexuality, could I not? Growing up, did your parents agree with everything that you did? Does affirmation equal love? Can you disagree with someone and still love them? If you agree with those things, then how is love not being shown?
What does it mean to love gay people? You have to ask that? Yes my parents loved me, did not always agree with my decisions, but I never heard meanness in any comment. I never heard a single negative word about who I married. There is simply meanness in the posts of fundamentalists. It strikes many of us as a "I am better than them."
Do you not believe your righteousness is as filthy rags in the sight of God? I'm sure you have a few sins to get worked out and surprise for you, your most minor sin is equal to your view of homosexuality in God's eyes. You are exactly the same as you view homosexuals--and if you cannot see that then you've not had a life-changing experience with Jesus Christ. Yes, I am calling your so- called salvation into dispute. A person who recognizes their own sinfulness and God's righteousness has no time to talk about the sins of others, they are focused on their own.
You can point out all the biblical verses condemning homosexuality and adultery and fornication and lying that you want, but you better give a little consideration to Jesus' words to the Pharisees in Matthew when He said, "I tell you there will be tax collectors and prostitutes entering Heaven before you."
So what do you think Jesus' real attitude was toward those people who knew their bible better than either of us. It's not knowing rhe bible that makes a difference, it's knowing Jesus' attitude toward sinners, His admonishment to forgive seventy time seven, his standing up for a guilty adulteress when He knew the Pharisees had correctly interpreted the Law calling for her death but stating "neither do I condemn you." And when you come back with "go and sin no more," I will respond that she has at least 489 more "I forgive you's" to go.
Jesus stood up for sinners. He called sinners to be His disciples. They weren't knowledgeable in scripture other than what had been read to them in synagogue. Jesus knew the scripture without being a slave to it. Over and over He demonstrated love and mercy and kindness trumped scripture. He healed a man on the sabbath, scripture said it was wrong and He KNEW it said it was wrong, but kindness trumped scripture. He told a story about a hated enemy, a Samaritan, who rescued a man beaten and robbed and left lying in a ditch. The moral of the story was that one should be careful about who one calls an enemy. The enemy may be the one who saves your life. If He were to tell the story today it would be about a married heterosexual and a celibate priest passing by and a homosexual stopping to help---YOU.
That's the kind of man Jesus was. It was the kind of approach to life and people He took.
You say you are a Christian. Why can't we see Christ in your postings?
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