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I am sorry, but this is exactly what those homosexual type of people are trying to say about this whole gay marriage abomination. They want us Christians to accept gay marriage and be okay with it being legal because they think it is okay to CHOOSE to sin, that Jesus will forgive them. Well, if you are gay married then you are not repenting and are choosing to live in sin. They do not realize that the Church can not marry them and contribute to them living in SIN!
Do you think the gays should be allowed to marry and do you think the church should marry them?
Yes, I think two people should be allowed to love one another if that's who they are attracted to. (don't start asking about pedos, not gonna go there). But I am not God, I am merely human.
And, "those homosexual type of people"???? Really????
I am the OP and I dont think I ever disagreed with you. I dont think 4detail is disagreeing with you either. We are acknowledging that we deserve to go to hell, in fact thats the title of my OP, not to try to twist the bible.
Well I wouldn't go so far as to say I think that I deserve to go to hell just because I divorced. Perhaps because I cheated...
But ONCE AGAIN, thank God for His grace, I have been forgiven and I am not going to hell.
Here's the thing I think about. I can imagine the scene:
I get hit by a Mack truck tomorrow. My soul is brought up to Heaven, with Jesus standing before me, with welcoming, open arms. I say to him, "but, Jesus, the C-D people said I was going straight down because of my sins." And Jesus begins to giggle, and then laugh, and it becomes a deep belly laugh and he's just standing there with a huge smile on his face. And he says, "My child, did I not say that I forgive you??" as He holds out His hand with a hole in His palm. "Listen not to the naysayers, for I am your God and you repented of your sin and drew near to Me, so your earthly sin was no more. You are now welcome to come among Me and my angels, because your heart was genuine in your pursuit of Me."
Or something like that. Yep, that's my fantasy and I'm sticking to it.
If you got married, and then you decided to break the marriage covenant, then that is sin and any future relationship is also sin. However, if you repent of your sin and ask God to forgive you, then you are forgiven. Repenting would involve going back to your husband or wife if it is possible. If you got back to your husband and he refuses to take you back, then you are free from your obligation and are also free to re-marry. It is the same as if your spouse divorced you. They will have to answer for it, not you.
You are really twisting the words of the Bible to fit your belief, aren't you? If you divorce it is a sin, if you go back to your ex and they do not take you back you are free from sin? How many exes would take you back? So, this leaves people to believe that they can just get a divorce, ask God to forgive them, then try to get back with their ex (which we know rarely will the ex get back with you), and now everything is okay and you can remarry? Isn't that so easy.
You are really twisting the words of the Bible to fit your belief, aren't you? If you divorce it is a sin, if you go back to your ex and they do not take you back you are free from sin? How many exes would take you back? So, this leaves people to believe that they can just get a divorce, ask God to forgive them, then try to get back with their ex (which we know rarely will the ex get back with you), and now everything is okay and you can remarry? Isn't that so easy.
That's how God's forgiveness works. Murderers can't 'unmurder' people, yet are they not still forgiven? We can't always undo the sin we have done, but as long as our heart is repentant, the sin will be forgiven by God.
That's how God's forgiveness works. Murderers can't 'unmurder' people, yet are they not still forgiven? We can't always undo the sin we have done, but as long as our heart is repentant, the sin will be forgiven by God.
Yes, God forgives but you can't go on living in sin. You made up stuff about people who go back to their ex, and if the ex does not take them back it is okay to remarry. This is not true.
I guess since this sin affects so many Christians, they are willing to twist things around to make it look like it is okay what they are doing. All of a sudden forgiveness and what is in your heart that matters is important more than what the Bible is telling us. Interesting.
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Yes, God forgives but you can't go on living in sin. You made up stuff about people who go back to their ex, and if the ex does not take them back it is okay to remarry. This is not true.
I guess since this sin affects so many Christians, they are willing to twist things around to make it look like it is okay what they are doing. All of a sudden forgiveness and what is in your heart that matters is important more than what the Bible is telling us. Interesting.
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Exactly; to be forgiven you have to recognize and ask for forgiveness. You must fight the sin or its not really repenting of the sin.
I am not judging, I am just pointing out what the Bible tells us and trying to help by leading people away from sinning. That is what God wants us to do. These are just a few of the verses telling us how much God hates divorce, there are many others. This is something God feels very strongly about. I am certain that other Christians are willing to point this out to people they come across (family, friends, coworkers) who are committing this horrible sin. I really do not understand why some pastors are willing to remarry people. I think they are doing a very bad thing when they do that.
Rom 7:1-3 (NRS) Do you not know, brothers and sisters--for I am speaking to those who know the law--that... a married woman is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives?.. Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive.
Luke 16:15-18 (NKJ) And He said to them, "You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God... Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery."
Mat 5:31-32 (NAS) "It was said, 'Whoever sends his wife away, let him give her a certificate of divorce'; but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery."
1Cor 7:39 (Wey) A woman is bound to her husband during the whole period that he lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to marry whom she will, provided that he is a Christian.
John 6:60 (NIV) On hearing it, many of his disciples said, "This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?" ...Jesus said to them, "Does this offend you?.. This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him." From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him. "You do not want to leave too, do you?" Jesus asked the Twelve. Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life."
Mal 2:16a (NIV) "I hate divorce," says the Lord...
Rom 7:1-3 (NAS) Or do you not know, brethren (for I am speaking to those who know the law), that the law has jurisdiction over a person as long as he lives? For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband. So then if, while her husband is living, she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress, though she is joined to another man.
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