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My question is simple. Will there be any humans left alive following the Great Tribulation and after God's wrath upon the earth and its inhabitants? If you think anyone survives, tell us who they will be and if they will reproduce during the 1,000 years. Thank you in advance for your responses.
My question is simple. Will there be any humans left alive following the Great Tribulation and after God's wrath upon the earth and its inhabitants? If you think anyone survives, tell us who they will be and if they will reproduce during the 1,000 years. Thank you in advance for your responses.
The GREAT Multitude:
NIV Revelation 7:14 I answered, "Sir, you know." And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
This indicates they went through and came out the other side. That is based on the word choice and grammar which does not allow for being taken away before the GT.
Next a whole lot of people, those who are not Born Again and go to heaven.
YLT Acts 24:15 having hope toward God, which they themselves also wait for, that there is about to be a rising again of the dead, both of righteous and unrighteous;
This is a positive resurrection for both as the word "hope" applies to both groups. No wicked resurrected though.
Those who are resurrected as well as those who survive benefit from..
ASV Revelation 22:2 in the midst of the street thereof. And on this side of the river and on that was the tree of life, bearing twelve manner of fruits, yielding its fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Spiritual and physical.
The ones going to heaven with Christ rule as Kings with him and serve as Priests with him, to help direct, teach and heal the resurrected nations. No siting on clouds playing harps, gazing for all eternity at God, etc, they have work to do.
So do those on earth as they will fulfill God's purpose for the earth.
Genesis 1:28 28 And God blessed them: and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
God's will, will always be done.
Matthew 6:9-10 9 After this manner therefore pray ye. Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so on earth.
NIV Revelation 7:14 I answered, "Sir, you know." And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
This indicates they went through and came out the other side. That is based on the word choice and grammar which does not allow for being taken away before the GT.
Next a whole lot of people, those who are not Born Again and go to heaven.
YLT Acts 24:15 having hope toward God, which they themselves also wait for, that there is about to be a rising again of the dead, both of righteous and unrighteous;
This is a positive resurrection for both as the word "hope" applies to both groups. No wicked resurrected though.
Those who are resurrected as well as those who survive benefit from..
ASV Revelation 22:2 in the midst of the street thereof. And on this side of the river and on that was the tree of life, bearing twelve manner of fruits, yielding its fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Spiritual and physical.
The ones going to heaven with Christ rule as Kings with him and serve as Priests with him, to help direct, teach and heal the resurrected nations. No siting on clouds playing harps, gazing for all eternity at God, etc, they have work to do.
So do those on earth as they will fulfill God's purpose for the earth.
Genesis 1:28 28 And God blessed them: and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
God's will, will always be done.
Matthew 6:9-10 9 After this manner therefore pray ye. Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so on earth.
From my best understanding of your post I think we agree. I have done some intense studying on this in the last couple of days. The best take I can come up with is that the Kingdom will be populated by humans who made it through the Tribulation and all the wraths poured out without taking the Mark of the Beast or bowing to his image. These humans were not saved though but fought against his rule as did the French Resistance fighters against the Nazi occupation of France.
Thank you for responding. I would have thought more folks would be interested in this subject.
My question is simple. Will there be any humans left alive following the Great Tribulation and after God's wrath upon the earth and its inhabitants? If you think anyone survives, tell us who they will be and if they will reproduce during the 1,000 years. Thank you in advance for your responses.
There will always be humans, if not here, then elsewhere.
The fire to come is a cleansing and a birth.
Humans are in bondage, and so too is the Earth.
Just as humans die and are put into the ground, the Earth itself is dead, and it also needs a resurrection.
We are not just humans upon an Earth, WE ARE THE EARTH.
Where there are laws of gravity and of nature that work against us now, these laws will not apply to those who inherit the Earth.
When Jesus was resurrected, he became one with the Earth, because he was the first born son of the Earth.
The Earth literally became pregnant having a seed planted, and the seed put into a tomb, sprouted.
When Jesus died and cried out, the veil standing before the throne was ripped in two.
This means that the Temple was no longer a virgin, the veil had been ripped just as a virgin is ripped. The water and the blood fell into the dust because this is the way of a maiden and a man when consummation has been made.
The Priests had come up with their seed in hand for centuries, and when they stood before the veil with their seed, there was no door, no way to get inside a veil which is impassible. Just as it is with a maiden.
But in all those years, the Earth had not given birth because of the fall, and of the changing of birthing.
The Temple had never given birth, and this is the entire goal of the comings and goings of the temple.
Standing before the throne to see what is there, is to see two seas and a river of fire.
There is a dolphin there, and he is skipping across the water on his tail, we see this in the covering of dolphin skins on the alter of incense.
A dolphin has two lives, and the dolphin skin is there to show the two lives that we can also have, as a dolphin of the water, can become a creature of air instead of water, and he can just walk right across the water as we will all have to do.
When Moses built the Tent of meeting, he took them through the valley of whales or he had been there.
In the wilderness is a valley that used to be a sea, anyone can still go and look at the monsters in the sand.
Dolphin as monsters, they had came and left the water and became monsters as if they were lions, and then they went back to the water.
The valley of whales still has the bones of these extinct dolphins, there are hills where a dolphin head is sticking out one side, and their tail on the other. What must they have thought when looking at sea monsters swimming in the sand?
That is what the tent of meeting is, it's outer covering is made of dolphin skin, and to see the tent of meeting moving and living in a desert is like seeing a dolphin which has come from the water, and now swims in the sand.
That is the plan of the temple, it is showing how a person crosses over, and how birth takes place when the Earth would give birth to it's first born son because he had become a new creature, once a man born of water, now, a new creature of the air.
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IMO, these are true believers whose earthly lives have been shortened by martyrdom for the cause of Christ (both throughout the ages and during the Great Tribulation (Rev. 7:13-14)). Christ's reign on earth during this thousand-year period, will demonstrate the earthly life mankind could have lived on earth, had they submitted to God's Lordship ("on earth as it is in heaven").
Rev. 20:4-6 - Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.
IMO, these are true believers whose earthly lives have been shortened by martyrdom for the cause of Christ (both throughout the ages and during the Great Tribulation (Rev. 7:13-14)). Christ's reign on earth during this thousand-year period, will demonstrate the earthly life mankind could have lived on earth, had they submitted to God's Lordship ("on earth as it is in heaven").
Rev. 20:4-6 - Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.
Demonstrate to who? Each other? Who will they be kings, priests, and judges over if no humans exist? Each other? Who are the sheep and goat nations? Who will take the hand of an Israelite and go with that Israelite to the mountain of the Lord?
From my best understanding of your post I think we agree. I have done some intense studying on this in the last couple of days. The best take I can come up with is that the Kingdom will be populated by humans who made it through the Tribulation and all the wraths poured out without taking the Mark of the Beast or bowing to his image. These humans were not saved though but fought against his rule as did the French Resistance fighters against the Nazi occupation of France.
Thank you for responding. I would have thought more folks would be interested in this subject.
The problem is many believe they will be in haven for all eternity and the rest will be in hell.
Then some believe they will be there and then rejoin perfect bodies on earth and ... Rev 22:1,2 speak of those not perfect, so .... they focus on heaven and ignore earth.
God made man for the earth and intends for us to live and enjoy it, if faithful now and then.
During the Tribulation no resistance fighting, but resistance to the rule of the beast is needed. Not taking the Mark is indicated, physically fighting is not and shows a lack of faith in God taking care of the matter. We have multiple examples of God's judgment being carried out and faithful man not needing to fight, just obey.
Demonstrate to who? Each other? Who will they be kings, priests, and judges over if no humans exist? Each other? Who are the sheep and goat nations? Who will take the hand of an Israelite and go with that Israelite to the mountain of the Lord?
There will be humans present.
No sheep or goat ' nations '
Matthew 25 vs 31,32 is about ' individuals ' Not nations.
Since Pentecost the ' Israel of God ' is No longer fleshly Israel but now spiritual. Jerusalem above is now mother.
The state of natural Israel today exists by the grace of God as a national group.
- Galatians 4 v 26; 6 v 16
Christians make up being part of God's ' spiritual nation ' - 1st Peter 2 vs 9,5
God's spiritual nation is Not found on any map and has No boundaries or borders on any map.
Both Jews and gentile people of the nations can become Christians or citizens of God's spiritual nation.
Jesus spiritual ' brothers ' [ Matthew 25 v 40 ] are called to heaven [ 1st Cor. 15 v 50 ] and they will reign as kings and priests over the sheep or earthly subjects of God's kingdom of a thousand years over earth .- Psalm 72 v 8; 37 vs 11,29
My question is simple. Will there be any humans left alive following the Great Tribulation and after God's wrath upon the earth and its inhabitants? If you think anyone survives, tell us who they will be and if they will reproduce during the 1,000 years. Thank you in advance for your responses.
The humble sheep during the coming ' time of separation ' of Matthew 25 vs 31,32 can remain alive on earth living through the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7 v 14. Those living sheep will be a great multitude or great crowd - Rev. 7 v 9,10
So, yes there will be survivors who will be saved, rescued, delivered whereas the wicked will be destroyed - Psalm 92 v 7.
- see Proverbs 2 vs 21,22 to see who will ' remain '.
God's purpose for earth is that mankind is to reproduce until earth is full [ populated ] Not over populated - Gen. 1 v 28
As to what extent there will be children born during Jesus' coming 1000-year kingdom reign over earth remains to be seen.
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