The Holy Souls in Purgatory can help us---

[janelle144]

Originally Posted by Mike555

No, Janelle. You cannot. You probably won't believe what I said there but please see post #37.

Of course one can. People spit in God's face everyday. You think He will let them go to heaven to be with Him when they reject Him? By the way we send ourselves to hell by rejecting God, God doesn't do that, that's our decision.

[Heart_Song]

Originally Posted by janelle144

Of course one can. People spit in God's face everyday. You think He will let them go to heaven to be with Him when they reject Him? By the way we send ourselves to hell by rejecting God, God doesn't do that, that's our decision.

No one sends him or herself to hell. We are born into hell which is this realm of MORTALITY where there is suffering and every evil thing imaginable to be subjected to. This world has more than enough hell in it as you should know by observing the present and all of history. Even the innocent animals and beasts of the field are suffering in this realm. The wages of Adam's sin is death for the whole world, but the gift of God is life through Christ our Lord. The gift is unto all, just as Adam's curse brought death upon all.

"We have ALL TOGETHER become as an unclean thing - we have ALL gone astray each to his own way." Are there any who seek after God (without his influence of Holy Spirit drawing them?) No - NOT ONE.

[janelle144]

This life is hard but it is not hell.

[DewDropInn]

Originally Posted by janelle144

This life is hard but it is not hell.

Tell that to the kids who are bought and sold in the sex trafficking industry.

It's real easy to proclaim life is not hell when you're kicking-back and taking some time to see what's on C-D from a comfy house in flyover country. Hell is on this earth and it's known by the MILLIONS of people who suffer daily. And most of that suffering is brought on by what human beings do to each other. Hell? Presided over by some evil being, surrounded by flames, holding a pitchfork tormenting souls? Nonsense. Who needs the devil when there are middle-class Americans willing to pay money to have sex with a 9-year old.