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Old 11-16-2014, 01:29 PM
 
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Job 42:12 Now the LORD blessed the latter days of Job more than his beginning." What about his children that died for this experiment? Was his blessing worth his children's lives? they were still dead.
His children were going to die anyway, so it is better to die for a purpose than no purpose whatsoever.

And God is going to resurrect Job's children. When Job's children are resurrected it will seem to them that only a split second elapsed from the second they died to the second they are made alive again.
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Old 11-16-2014, 01:30 PM
 
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Why is it, that common sense evades people?

I know, Satan is cleaver and tricky; and God had to prove a point.
Send in the thieves, tornado's, and take the lives of his children ...
... but, you cannot take his life? Talk about false conceptions!
Jerwade, I don't see what you are getting at. Could you elaborate?
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Old 11-16-2014, 01:39 PM
 
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His children were going to die anyway, so it is better to die for a purpose than no purpose whatsoever.
And that is why some Muslims behead children and why others fly airplanes into tall buildings. I wish you could somehow leave your body and watch yourself talking.

I cannot state this any more firmly. We are not in the middle ages anymore.
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Old 11-16-2014, 01:40 PM
 
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And yes, of course Satan has access to God's throne. He is the accuser of the brethren, you know.

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Old 11-16-2014, 01:56 PM
 
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Even David's poor choices were ordered by God.

Pro_21:1 Like rillets of water is the king's heart in the hand of Yahweh; Wherever He inclines, He turns it aside."

And yes, of course Satan has access to God's throne. He is the accuser of the brethren, you know.

For instance, when David numbered Israel, his heart smote him because he said he sinned in doing so. Yet we are told Satan made him do the numbering. Yet we are told God made him number the people. So God made Satan make David number the Israelites.
So doesn't this strike you as being rather odd that God,satan and man being attributed to the cause of the same thing ?.What you believe God to be is one tbe one who as your heart in its hand and further still will carry out all that you believe to be true and there is nothing you can do about it other than change what you believe to be true, because what you believe rules you and the reason why we should diligently guard our hearts. Death and life are in the power of the tongue and the tongue is only confirming what you believe to be true, for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

Do you really believe that God caused David to commit adultery and then have a man killed ?.

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Old 11-16-2014, 02:40 PM
 
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What are you talking about ?. Not one of Job's mates told him the truth because like Job they had no idea who God is.
They told Job he was getting what he deserved. That was not true.

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The tribal destroying warlord God you are advocating is the devil.
No, God sent Satan (the devil) on a mission, so God can't be the devil.


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Do you really believe the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the earth seeking whom he may desire to destroy,
Please supply book, chapter and verse for that sentence above.
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Old 11-16-2014, 02:42 PM
 
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And that is why some Muslims behead children and why others fly airplanes into tall buildings. I wish you could somehow leave your body and watch yourself talking.

I cannot state this any more firmly. We are not in the middle ages anymore.
Nonetheless, what I wrote is the truth. You can't use the fallacy of "guilt by association" in order to try to prove your point nor poisoning of the well.
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Old 11-16-2014, 02:47 PM
 
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They told Job he was getting what he deserved. That was not true.



No, God sent Satan (the devil) on a mission, so God can't be the devil.




Please supply book, chapter and verse for that sentence above.
The fire of God fell upon the sheep and the servants, who caused it (not allowed)it to fall upon the sheep and servants ?.

It was a question, for you to look at what it is you believe.
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Old 11-16-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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So doesn't this strike you as being rather odd that God,satan and man being attributed to the cause of the same thing ?.What you believe God to be is one tbe one who as your heart in its hand and further still will carry out all that you believe to be true and there is nothing you can do about it other than change what you believe to be true, because what you believe rules you and the reason why we should diligently guard our hearts. Death and life are in the power of the tongue and the tongue is only confirming what you believe to be true, for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

Do you really believe that God caused David to commit adultery and then have a man killed ?.
No, of course I don't find it rather odd that God and Satan had David number Israel. Why is that so hard to believe?

Of course David could not do otherwise than to commit adultery.

"you will be protesting to me: "Why then is He still blaming for who has withstood His intention?" (Romans 9).

Death and life are in the power of the tongue under the law of Moses.

Do you believe God had his Son killed or was it just some big mistake and caught God off guard?
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Old 11-16-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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The fire of God fell upon the sheep and the servants, who caused it (not allowed)it to fall upon the sheep and servants ?

It was a question, for you to look at what it is you believe.
The buck stops with God. I don't see the problem in that.
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