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Pcamps, even in believe Jesus referenced the OT often, probably more than are recorded in the NT.
He had to do this, because the fundamentalists of his day were like the fundamentalists of our day, they knew the law by heart without knowing the heart of the Law. So it was entirely about "But I say unto you," (that your take on the scripture is wrong). Like the fundamentalists of today, the Pharisees over emphasized judgment and scriptural righteousness. Jesus, on the other hand completely reversed that concept not only with His Sermon on the Mount, but with how He interacted with those His fundamentalists despised and rejected.
So, yes, scripture was very important to Jesus as it should be to us. Fundamentalists are STILL missing the heart of the message Jesus gave us while remaining focused on the "letter" of the law as "perfect."
This article caught my eye because I have always thought of Jesus as a cool, carefree hippy type of dude. I have no idea why, but that is the image I have of him. The kind of guy who will chill and have some wine with anyone and not judge them. If he were alive today I can picture him listening to the Grateful Dead and laughing with friends. I can picture him feeding the homeless instead of mocking them.
Then I read what people who have actually read the entire Bible (unlike me) say about how Jesus was in the Bible and it seems that he was not the guy I have always thought him to me. I like to think though that if the Bible paints Jesus as anything other than a loving and kind soul then the Bible is wrong...or am I?
Jesus was and is love more than anything else. He loves everyone- no matter what they do or how they live. That does not mean he condones anything that goes against Gods Law, however.
Careful, DROB . . . Jesus refuted things in your inerrant and infallible Bible . . . "Ye have heard it was said . . . but I say"
Jesus did not refute anything that was written in the Old Testament but rather refuted those who twisted the Old Testament such as you do. He said "You have heard it said" He didn't say, you have seen it written.
The intent of what God had written was different then what some were saying about it, and so it is today concerning all Scripture. Rather then being taught by the Spirit they consume things with their own human understanding and then do much damage with their mouths and own writings.
Jesus was and is love more than anything else. He loves everyone- no matter what they do or how they live. That does not mean he condones anything that goes against Gods Law, however.
You realize that there are those that he hates, right? And that he intentionally hid the message of the Gospel from some....right?
Careful, DROB . . . Jesus refuted things in your inerrant and infallible Bible . . . "Ye have heard it was said . . . but I say"
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Originally Posted by garya123
Jesus did not refute anything that was written in the Old Testament but rather refuted those who twisted the Old Testament such as you do. He said "You have heard it said" He didn't say, you have seen it written.
The intent of what God had written was different then what some were saying about it, and so it is today concerning all Scripture. Rather then being taught by the Spirit they consume things with their own human understanding and then do much damage with their mouths and own writings.
First of all God wrote nothing . . . men did. Second the majority of teaching was done orally . . . NOT in written form . . . that is why Jesus used those words. Third what Jesus refuted WAS also written in the OT and read to people . . . hence the hearing part. You are being disingenuous and that is NOT what Jesus would expect of His followers.
You realize that there are those that he hates, right? And that he intentionally hid the message of the Gospel from some....right?
Utterly preposterous. You deny the Great Commission??? This is the most glaring example that you do NOT know Christ and God at all. You worship the words "written in ink" in the Bible . . . NOT Christ or God. You are not spreading the Good News, pastor.
Jesus did not refute anything that was written in the Old Testament but rather refuted those who twisted the Old Testament such as you do. He said "You have heard it said" He didn't say, you have seen it written.
The intent of what God had written was different then what some were saying about it, and so it is today concerning all Scripture. Rather then being taught by the Spirit they consume things with their own human understanding and then do much damage with their mouths and own writings.
Yes, when he said that he was referring to what was written and later ignored or changed by men who put their own thoughts/revelation first and ... ignored scripture. Lot of those around today, they have no real understanding of the scriptures so follow their own revelations.
Jesus didn't go to blend in with their wrong lifestyles but rather to convert them to His.
A big "AMEN" ! The ideas people get in their minds,
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Originally Posted by garya123
Jesus did not refute anything that was written in the Old Testament but rather refuted those who twisted the Old Testament such as you do. He said "You have heard it said" He didn't say, you have seen it written.
The intent of what God had written was different then what some were saying about it, and so it is today concerning all Scripture. Rather then being taught by the Spirit they consume things with their own human understanding and then do much damage with their mouths and own writings.
Boy, O boy, you can say this again and is worth repeating !!
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Originally Posted by expatCA
Yes, when he said that he was referring to what was written and later ignored or changed by men who put their own thoughts/revelation first and ... ignored scripture. Lot of those around today, they have no real understanding of the scriptures so follow their own revelations.
Yeah, and some of these revelations I can watch on the syfy channel,
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