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Some people will hold to the greater critics of the authorship of Lord Jesus and His rules for salvation and in turn can miss salvation ..................Then some are lesser critics of Lord Jesus and reject some or all of the blessing of Christ , and can be saved but have very few gifts of the Spirit of Christ ..................Then others can believe most of the Scriptures and bless the Lord and not undermine anything and walk in the gifts of Holy Spirit and be saved in obedience to Christ , and pay no mind to the inconsistencies in the Word of God , as the inconsistencies in the Word of God make very little difference in their walk with Christ
No, we do not.
2 Timothy 3:16
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.
Yes we DO! "Useful" does not mean what you want it to mean. Something that is "useful" is something that can help us to understand requiring thought, reason and knowledge . . . NOT BE the understanding through blind acceptance.
Yes we DO! "Useful" does not mean what you want it to mean. Something that is "useful" is something that can help us to understand requiring thought, reason and knowledge . . . NOT BE the understanding through blind acceptance.
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
2 Peter 1:21
21 For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
This simply reiterates the source of the inspirations, jimmie . . . NOT the validity of their interpretations.
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.
Most modern critical scholars argue that 2 Timothy was not written by Paul but by an anonymous follower, after Paul's death in the First Century
Whatever the case, there's no reason that this is essential for our salvation and hence not necessarily inspired.
My friend Ralph is writing his own version of the New Testament and claims that it is all God-breathed. Is there any reason not to believe him? So too the writer of 2 Timothy.
Most modern critical scholars argue that 2 Timothy was not written by Paul but by an anonymous follower, after Paul's death in the First Century
Whatever the case, there's no reason that this is essential for our salvation and hence not necessarily inspired.
My friend Ralph is writing his own version of the New Testament and claims that it is all God-breathed. Is there any reason not to believe him? So too the writer of 2 Timothy.
Peter, who walked with Jesus, confirmed Paul's writings as gospel.
Peter, who walked with Jesus, confirmed Paul's writings as gospel.
First, second Peter wasn't written by the Peter that walked with Jesus, despite someone putting his name at the head of the letter. Just look it up in Wikipedia--not a great source but will give you the basics. There are both literary and grammatical differences between first and second Peter. In English I can read virtually any literature and tell whether it was written by Will Shakespeare. I can't do that in Greek--and neither can you. But Greek scholars can. From Wikipedia:
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Most biblical scholars have concluded Peter is not the author, and consider the epistle pseudepigraphical. Reasons for this include its linguistic differences from 1 Peter, its apparent use of Jude, possible allusions to 2nd-century gnosticism, encouragement in the wake of a delayed parousia, and weak external support.The questions of authorship and date are closely related. For Petrine authorship to be authentic, it must have been written prior to Peter's death in c 65–67AD. The letter refers to the Pauline epistles and so must post-date at least some of them, regardless of authorship, thus a date before 60 is not probable
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Second, whoever wrote 2nd Timothy (a decent possibility that it might not have been Paul, although not as certain as the above regarding 2nd Peter), didn't have ANY New Testament material before them. They wrote those words about the OLD TESTAMENT. Also from Wikipedia:
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Most modern critical scholars argue that 2 Timothy was not written by Paul but by an anonymous follower, after Paul's death in the First Century. The language and ideas of this epistle are notably different from the other two Pastoral letters yet similar to the later Pauline letters, especially the ones he wrote in captivity. This has led some scholars to conclude that the author of 2 Timothy is a different person from 1 Timothy and Titus.
And with regard to the Old Testament, Jesus may have said He didn't come to change it--but He most certainly did change the way it was understood with virtually every word He spoke and every action He took.
Blind acceptance of scripture led some men in the early U.S. to put nineteen "witches" to death in Salem, Massachusetts. A score of years later one of the judges whose name I've forgotten, but I think it was Sewall, wrote that the faces of those women haunted him still.
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A period of atonement began in the colony following the release of the surviving accused witches. Samuel Sewall, one of the judges, issued a public confession of guilt and an apology. Several jurors came forward to say that they were "sadly deluded and mistaken" in their judgments. Reverend Samuel Parris conceded errors of judgment, but mostly shifted blame to others. Parris was replaced as minister of Salem village by Thomas Green, who devoted his career to putting his torn congregation back together. Governor Phips blamed the entire affair on William Stoughton. -----
The witches disappeared, but witchhunting in America did not. Each generation must learn the lessons of history or risk repeating its mistakes. Salem should warn us to think
hard about how to best safeguard and improve our system of justice.
But the Bible does record "Let not a witch live among you," and indicates soothsayers and fortunetellers should be stoned to death. Are those scriptures inspired? And when you start making excuses about how those are not but others are you have left the world of "all the Bible is God-breathed" to "all the Bible I want to believe is God-breathed." And that's a pretty big difference.
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