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Old 01-02-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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Jesus said the title son of man many times but Paul never said it. How can Paul be a genuine apostle when he never abided in the words of Jesus? How did he continue in His word?

Remember, just as in the days of Noah so will it be at the coming of the son of man.

They all laughed at Noah, thinking they had no worries.

The son of man is lord of the Sabbath who comes eating and drinking in the name of the Lord and glorifying Him.

The son of man will come at a time you least expect.
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:04 AM
 
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Why do you have an issue with Paul?
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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How can Paul be a genuine apostle when he never abided in the words of Jesus?
Isn't the definition of apostle "one who is sent out"? If so, that requirement was likely met if you believe Paul was sent out. If your definition is stricter, then he couldn't have been an apostle because there were only 12. However, it appears the definition isn't the issue here.

I have difficulty linking the omission of a certain phrase with the conclusion that he NEVER abided in the words of Jesus.
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:15 AM
 
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Isn't the definition of apostle "one who is sent out"? If so, that requirement was likely met if you believe Paul was sent out. If your definition is stricter, then he couldn't have been an apostle because there were only 12. However, it appears the definition isn't the issue here.

I have difficulty linking the omission of a certain phrase with the conclusion that he NEVER abided in the words of Jesus.
What about omitting all of Jesus' words? Paul only referenced Jesus' words once. Jesus said He gave the words that were given to Him to His followers and sent them as He was sent. Does Paul meet that criteria?
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:31 AM
 
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Jesus said the title son of man many times but Paul never said it. How can Paul be a genuine apostle when he never abided in the words of Jesus? How did he continue in His word?

Remember, just as in the days of Noah so will it be at the coming of the son of man.

They all laughed at Noah, thinking they had no worries.

The son of man is lord of the Sabbath who comes eating and drinking in the name of the Lord and glorifying Him.

The son of man will come at a time you least expect.
Can you give a counter example who else said it other than Jesus?

Mostly Son of Man is how Jesus calling Himself.

Moreover, Paul was never lived with Jesus to learn His words before Jesus' crucifixion. Paul received Christ's teachings perhaps in a more supernatural way IMO.
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:36 AM
 
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Can you give a counter example who else said it other than Jesus?

Mostly Son of Man is how Jesus calling Himself.

Moreover, Paul was never lived with Jesus to learn His words before Jesus' crucifixion. Paul received Christ's teachings perhaps in a more supernatural way IMO.
God the Father said it through one or more of the prophets. I have said it as Jesus commanded to follow Him and abide in His word.
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:41 AM
 
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God the Father said it through one or more of the prophets. I have said it as Jesus commanded to follow Him and abide in His word.
Are you dodging the question? I ask who else ever mentioned the title "Son of Man" other than Jesus Himself?
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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What about omitting all of Jesus' words? Paul only referenced Jesus' words once. Jesus said He gave the words that were given to Him to His followers and sent them as He was sent. Does Paul meet that criteria?
I remember when I was first starting out, sharing the gospel with others. I was in my car, driving to my office in the city. I was afraid and worried about how I was going to share the gospel with another person who works on my floor. I finally decided that no matter how badly it goes, no matter how badly I botch the WORDS, I'm going to share the gospel.

At that very instant, I was baptized in the Holy Spirit. I saw a vision of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. I then saw Jesus. He told me that I'm now a witness. Go! Go tell that man on your floor about me! You saw it! You now know it's true. You'll be sharing what you know to be true.

Do I have set words that I use when I share the gospel? No way! In fact, it doesn't even feel like me doing the talking.
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Old 01-02-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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Are you dodging the question? I ask who else ever mentioned the title "Son of Man" other than Jesus Himself?
I said some of the prophets.

Isaiah, Ezekiel and Daniel.
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Old 01-02-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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I remember when I was first starting out, sharing the gospel with others. I was in my car, driving to my office in the city. I was afraid and worried about how I was going to share the gospel with another person who works on my floor. I finally decided that no matter how badly it goes, no matter how badly I botch the WORDS, I'm going to share the gospel.

At that very instant, I was baptized in the Holy Spirit. I saw a vision of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. I then saw Jesus. He told me that I'm now a witness. Go! Go tell that man on your floor about me! You saw it! You now know it's true. You'll be sharing what you know to be true.

Do I have set words that I use when I share the gospel? No way! In fact, it doesn't even feel like me doing the talking.
So you admit that you do not use the words of Jesus as He commanded.
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