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Old 01-14-2015, 10:20 PM
 
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We can all agree on the doctrine of Death. AS surely as we are born we will die at some point.
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Old 01-15-2015, 07:35 AM
 
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Ok, so all Christians agree on "death and taxes (tithes)." Do we finally have a consensus?
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Old 01-15-2015, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Ok, so all Christians agree on "death and taxes (tithes)." Do we finally have a consensus?
Heavens no! Taxes are something you pay to the civil government. Tithes are a part of the Mosaic Covenant and are not a part of what the NT teaches.
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:01 AM
 
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Ok, so all Christians agree on "death and taxes (tithes)." Do we finally have a consensus?
Taxes are something the government does today and tithes were something for the nation of Isreal alone.
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:05 AM
 
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Taxes are something the government does today and tithes were something for the nation of Isreal alone.
Hey now I was trying to be humorous. No hair splitting allowed.
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:36 AM
 
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Hey now I was trying to be humorous. No hair splitting allowed.
How about hair parting?
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Old 01-15-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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We can all agree on the doctrine of Death. AS surely as we are born we will die at some point.
There have been cases where the believer was 'translated' to Heaven, such that he never saw death.

There will also be some believers who will be left 'alive and remaining' when Christ returns for His ecclesia, to be gathered together with Him.
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Old 01-15-2015, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Taxes are something the government does today and tithes were something for the nation of Isreal alone.
Tithes were from the 'first fruits' [ie, Winter wheat harvest not the barley harvest], and from the increase among the flocks, and harvests of the orchards and vineyards. All things where yield is attributed to God.

Tithe was never from leasing out your time in the form of a salary, nor from the products of your hands [items that you made for retail market].

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Old 01-15-2015, 04:11 PM
 
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Tithes were from the 'first fruits' [ie, Winter wheat harvest not the barley harvest], and from the increase among the flocks, and harvests of the orchards and vineyards. All things where yield is attributed to God.

Tithe was never from leasing out your time in the form of a salary, nor from the products of your hands [items that you made for retail market].

And it was only for Israel!
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:05 AM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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Reconciling the world... yes - that's 2 Corinthians 5:19.

No one has seen the Father...

John 1:18 - No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

1 Timothy 6:13-16 - I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who testified the good confession before Pontius Pilate, 14 that you keep the commandment without stain or reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 which He (God) will bring about at the proper time--He (God) who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.
No one sees the Father IN His fullness .... being a Spirit being. But rest assured God can reveal and/or manifest Himself as He pleases.... Most Christians merely acknowledge that in Jesus we did have God reveal and manifest a part humbled to walk among us. Not just as merely likeness of being good and righteousness as His heavenly Father.
As The only begotten Son.... denotes as we have a son as part of us in the flesh come to be? Jesus as A SON literally of God....was Of his heavenly Father too. Not merely a likeness .. What we see it is God teaching us
It is the liberality of this some Sects deny... and see Jesus was a angel the. Man and angel again..... like JWs especially. Jesus ALWAYS ASKED....." Who do you say I AM "? Jesus never mentioned he was a angel too?
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