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The whole idea of original sin posited by some Christians is absolutely false. They don't even believe it themselves. If they believed someone is "born" into sin, then they would also believe that a baby or young child dying would be going to hell. The don't believe that. They then start on the "age of accountability." In other words sin doesn't come into existence "naturally," it comes in when we begin to recognize right from wrong.
I've never, ever, seen a Christian write, state, or preach that an infant goes to hell if it dies.
BUT, since it is something drilled into the fundamentalist thought, that, like creationism, simply cannot be false.
It is an illustration of how far they go to subject any ability to "rightly divide the word of truth."
Just an fyi: Lutherans teach original sin, and also teach that God makes no exception for infants being damned if they are not "saved". That's why they practice infant baptism.
Just an fyi: Lutherans teach original sin, and also teach that God makes no exception for infants being damned if they are not "saved". That's why they practice infant baptism.
Correct. Or at least the conservative Lutherans teach that (WELS and LCMS).
There is no "age of accountability" in conservative Lutheranism. If I'm not mistaken, an age of accountability is a baptist concept.
No I didn't. If God created the T. Rex that way, then that is the way God determined it should be with short arms. But if evolution is true and there is no God, then evolution once again has failed.
Evolution happened in my good opinion, and there is a God. The debate of evolution over God is a Christian concept, not a biblical concept. T-Rex lived millions and millions of years ago, just that he lived and died teaches evolution.
The Bible teaches Evolution or you are not the Temple.
God covered Adam and Eve in an animal skin, and when we see Jacob putting on the skin of an animal, it was a picture of Jacob inside an animal, and when his father touched his arm, he felt animal skin and thought it was his son Esau.
We have a whole religion based upon animal sacrifices for very good reason, and that reason teaches evolution from animal to man.
We aren't allowed to use the "t" word - the one that indicates a creature living under internet bridges - in reference to particular posters. But it certainly fits in certain instances.
I actaully had him figured out early on but always was willing to give him some benefit of doubt but he certainly has not earned any.
I would never wish to post on line anything I would be embrassed to show other people. At least I hope he would be embrassed to show people who knows some of his postings.
Does somebody think that flesh will be able to enter into the kingdom of heaven?
It cannot enter because it is flesh and blood which dies just as an animal dies, and an evolution takes place where a son of God is birthed out of a decaying body of Earth, of death.
Does somebody think that flesh will be able to enter into the kingdom of heaven?
It cannot enter because it is flesh and blood which dies just as an animal dies, and an evolution takes place where a son of God is birthed out of a decaying body of Earth, of death.
A question: would that not be more a transformation rather than evolution?
The whole idea of original sin posited by some Christians is absolutely false. They don't even believe it themselves. If they believed someone is "born" into sin, then they would also believe that a baby or young child dying would be going to hell. The don't believe that. They then start on the "age of accountability." In other words sin doesn't come into existence "naturally," it comes in when we begin to recognize right from wrong.
I've never, ever, seen a Christian write, state, or preach that an infant goes to hell if it dies.
BUT, since it is something drilled into the fundamentalist thought, that, like creationism, simply cannot be false.
It is an illustration of how far they go to subject any ability to "rightly divide the word of truth."
That is a good point. The catholic church did a rethink on babies a while back. sending them to hell didn't look so good in the prospectus. It implies that they are born sinless until they sis. But probably there is some theological epicycle about a special forgiveness in those cases.
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