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I'm not sure I understand this thread... was their a point to this? Is the OP saying child molesting isn't the worst thing or that it is the worst thing? I mean, I think murder is worse personally. Victims of sexual assaults, while having to deal with the awful experience, still have the opportunity to live a fulfilling life. Not trying to sound insensitive or devalue what happened to them. Obviously dealing with being raped or molested is not an easy thing, but with support, people have done it and I think I speak for everyone that many, if not most, victims usually go on to do very great things in preventing future assaults on other people which is an extremely courageous thing to do.
The only unforgivable sin is refusing to be forgiven.
For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He (even) gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.
The Gospel of John, Chapter 3, Verse 16 The Amplified Bible
This particular Bible is called "amplified" because of their endeavor to, according to the words in the preface, "...bring out the richness of the Hebrew and Greek languages."
The only unforgivable sin is refusing to be forgiven.
For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He (even) gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.
The Gospel of John, Chapter 3, Verse 16 The Amplified Bible
This particular Bible is called "amplified" because of their endeavor to, according to the words in the preface, "...bring out the richness of the Hebrew and Greek languages."
God loves you, Tony.
Only unforgiven sin is speaking against the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost.
Yes God is very liberal in grace even to the worst of people.
Bringing out that bible mockers can't repent and get saved.
At the sin time any sinner not mocking the bible they can repent and be saved even if they a child
molester or rapist or whatever.
What good is it to be against child molesting but mock the bible against wearing jewelry like you can go to heaven anyway ?
What good is it to be against rape but mock the bible against working on the Sabbath like you can go to heaven anyway ?
What good is it to be against abortion but mock the bible against men with long hair like you can go to heaven anyway ?
What good is it to be against pornography but mock the bible on water baptism like you can go to heaven anyway ?
This is why Matthew is inspired to write Matthew 5:17-20.
This is why John is inspired to write John 8:31.
Matthew said trivia law breakers are the worst people not the child molester or rapist .
They have no chance to make it cause they are bible mockers.
The child molester or rapist has a chance to make it cause they not self righteous hypocrites.
Trivia law breakers justify what they do both ignorantly and intentionally.
The child molester don't need a education class to repent they just need desire to repent.
The rapist don't need a self improvement seminar to repent they just need desire to repent.
Only unforgiven sin is speaking against the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost.
Yes God is very liberal in grace even to the worst of people.
Bringing out that bible mockers can't repent and get saved.
At the sin time any sinner not mocking the bible they can repent and be saved even if they a child
molester or rapist or whatever.
What good is it to be against child molesting but mock the bible against wearing jewelry like you can go to heaven anyway ?
What good is it to be against rape but mock the bible against working on the Sabbath like you can go to heaven anyway ?
What good is it to be against abortion but mock the bible against men with long hair like you can go to heaven anyway ?
What good is it to be against pornography but mock the bible on water baptism like you can go to heaven anyway ?
This is why Matthew is inspired to write Matthew 5:17-20.
This is why John is inspired to write John 8:31.
Matthew said trivia law breakers are the worst people not the child molester or rapist .
They have no chance to make it cause they are bible mockers.
The child molester or rapist has a chance to make it cause they not self righteous hypocrites.
Trivia law breakers justify what they do both ignorantly and intentionally.
The child molester don't need a education class to repent they just need desire to repent.
The rapist don't need a self improvement seminar to repent they just need desire to repent.
Only unforgiven sin is speaking against the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost.
Yes God is very liberal in grace even to the worst of people.
Bringing out that bible mockers can't repent and get saved.
At the sin time any sinner not mocking the bible they can repent and be saved even if they a child
molester or rapist or whatever.
What good is it to be against child molesting but mock the bible against wearing jewelry like you can go to heaven anyway ?
What good is it to be against rape but mock the bible against working on the Sabbath like you can go to heaven anyway ?
What good is it to be against abortion but mock the bible against men with long hair like you can go to heaven anyway ?
What good is it to be against pornography but mock the bible on water baptism like you can go to heaven anyway ?
This is why Matthew is inspired to write Matthew 5:17-20.
This is why John is inspired to write John 8:31.
Matthew said trivia law breakers are the worst people not the child molester or rapist .
They have no chance to make it cause they are bible mockers.
The child molester or rapist has a chance to make it cause they not self righteous hypocrites.
Trivia law breakers justify what they do both ignorantly and intentionally.
The child molester don't need a education class to repent they just need desire to repent.
The rapist don't need a self improvement seminar to repent they just need desire to repent.
?????
If you're trying to make a point, you might want to try a little harder. No one has a clue what you're trying to get across here.
Are you saying child molesters should be forgiven so long as they want forgiveness? I don't get what you're trying to say. I'm honestly concerned...
One thing I like about Tony's last post is that it is saying if one is going to be a "legalist" in the OT sense of the word, then you should be executed for working on a Sunday just as much as for any other "sin."
What happens today is people pick and choose from the OT in particular what laws of Moses they think are applicable today.
Using OT verbiage in Tony's sense:
What good is it to condemn a child molester if you are going to cut your hair (prohibited in Leviticus)
What good is it to condemn a rapist if you are going to play with a football (touching a pigskin prohibited in Leviticus)
What good is it to condemn a murderer if you are going to eat shellfish (prohibited in Leviticus).
What good is it to condemn a thief if you are going to wear jewelry (etc, etc)
We either choose to follow ALL of the LAW or we are FREE from the LAW. And if we are free from the law, then our condemnation of any sin needs to be focused on the sin in ourselves. The Pharisees were concerned about the letter of the law. They were frequently quite pious men. They did many good things. But they were not FREE from the Law. They spent all their time looking at others to see if those others followed the LAW. It was their master and they were its servants.
In this day we no longer have the LAW of Moses as our guideline. Instead we have a different Law of morality that is written on the fleshly tablets of the heart. It is a law that sees forgiveness as superior to condemnation. It sees acceptance as superior to rejection. And it sees others as equal OR BETTER than ourselves.
Child molesters don't justify what they do? That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Tony, if you want to claim that wearing jewelry, women preachers and celebrating Christmas are abominations to God, have at it.
But for heaven's sake and for CHILDREN's sake, please stop minimizing the evil of child molestation.
we waste so much money on these people. For the love of no-god god I don't understand why we let people stop us from taking "care" of this type of sick people. Why we allow people to force us to repeat the suffering at the hands of child molesters.
when a machine is broken and causing harm to people around it ... unplug it without malice.
Just saying that child molesting is no different to God then wearing jewelry----1 Peter 3:3.
At least the child molester not a self righteous hypocrite where as the person wearing jewelry
is probably mocking 1 Peter 3:3 so that makes them a self righteous hypocrite.
How can you repent if you mock 1 Peter 3:3 ?
At the same time the child molester is more likely to repent cause they not a bible mocker justifying their sin.
That's why Matthew 5:17-20 is in the bible.
No accident that knowing Christians is not so easy-----1 Thess. 5:12.
People brag they don't fornicate or judge people but how about doing so cause you believe
all the bible----Psalms 107:2 and John 8:31.
They got a real testimony not a former dope addict only.
They got a real testimony not a former welfare parent only.
Christians brag but balance things with meekness too or Jeremiah 17:9.
Christians brag but balance things with meekness too or 1 Cor. 8:2.
Christians brag but balance things with meekness or Jeremiah 10:23.
Christians brag but balance things with meekness or John 5:39.
To the child molester it does not matter what God says
The rapist stopped listening to God a long time ago
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