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Yeah, you just wanna have fun, don't you? But suppose your bad choices had bad consequences. Would that make a difference?
To do otherwise, is to live a life totally without serendipity - a prospect that makes me shudder. [/quote]So you'd take the risk rather than going for Door #2, even though with Door #2, you couldn't lose? Of course, your response is coming from a non-Christian perspective, so I'm not entirely sure it's telling me what I want to know. But thanks anyway.
the Lucifer upon hearing the pharises challenge would probably really caome down from the cross and nailing them on one cross. mmm.... multiple bodies on one cross mmm... what a sight mmm...
Yeah, you just wanna have fun, don't you? But suppose your bad choices had bad consequences. Would that make a difference?
I'm trying to think of a time a bad choice did not lead to a bad consequence.
And cannot.
So no. That wouldn't make a difference. My bad consequence may well lead to a better understanding and greater knowledge.
"To do otherwise, is to live a life totally without serendipity - a prospect that makes me shudder. "<--- you quoting me
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So you'd take the risk rather than going for Door #2, even though with Door #2, you couldn't lose? Of course, your response is coming from a non-Christian perspective, so I'm not entirely sure it's telling me what I want to know. But thanks anyway.
Yes, I'd take the risk.*
And not all truths come packaged as what one wants to know. And one may well have to adjust one's perspective to receive them. But they may well have valuable information that one might be wise to learn.
You're most welcome, my friend.
*(I'm part cat. By my rough math, I've got a couple lives left.)
You omitted the ever popular 'CD-UR door #(3): have the free will to choose to live whatever life one wants and make whatever moral choices one desires - with no consequences or personal accountability, ... yet, still be guaranteed a place in heaven.
You will reap, what you have sown.
But, I believe you already know that.
You omitted the ever popular 'CD-UR door #(3): have the free will to choose to live whatever life one wants and make whatever moral choices one desires - with no consequences or personal accountability, ... yet, still be guaranteed a place in heaven.
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
You will reap, what you have sown.
But, I believe you already know that.
He knows it . . . but since he always pretends he doesn't and perpetuates the lie about UR . . . it has to be deliberately deceptive posting to disparage UR.
Suppose you had a choice. You could either (1) have the freedom to choose for yourself what kind of life you wanted to live (in terms of your moral choices) or else (2) that freedom were taken away from you; you would not be even given the opportunity to make bad choices but would be guaranteed a place in Heaven as a result of giving up your free will. What would your decision be, and why?
Why choose when, as many believe, you can have both. Simply make a one time profession of Christ and then live however you like. You've had your ticket punched and you are going to heaven. Be as selfish as you wish and ignore the needs of others--they can pray just like the one-time decision maker. In fact the one time decision makes UR look positively inviting. That's the evangelical version of UR---you do have to do something---once!
A faith that requires work and decisions, and prayer to God about the most effective way to be a servant to others even as Jesus was a service to men, is simply too hard and doesn't appeal to our selfish natures.
And a better question still is---If there were no biblical assurances of heaven, would one still live in a manner pleasing to Jesus?
The optimist sees this world as "as good as it gets." The pessimist fears the optimist is right.
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[/quote]So you'd take the risk rather than going for Door #2, even though with Door #2, you couldn't lose? Of course, your response is coming from a non-Christian perspective, so I'm not entirely sure it's telling me what I want to know. But thanks anyway. 
