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Old 02-14-2015, 08:20 PM
 
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What is the source of that evil?
Free will.

I hope you are not invoking the "devil" made me do it excuse.
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Old 02-14-2015, 08:32 PM
 
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The entity that is used as a handy excuse and thus gets the blame for.... whatever.

"The devil made me do it." All over the Bible Belt there are people telling themselves that today. "The devil got me in a moment of weakness 'cause he's roaming around wanting to snatch up souls." Umm... no. Y'all chose to plunk down your money because you wanted to see a movie with sex and nudity. Just like the heathen sitting next to you at the 2:10 showing of "50 Shades of Grey" at the Cineplex. Tomorrow y'all can pretend you didn't see anyone you knew from church in the theater and they can pretend they didn't see you.
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Old 02-14-2015, 08:48 PM
 
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The entity that is used as a handy excuse and thus gets the blame for.... whatever.

"The devil made me do it."

I agree.
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Old 02-14-2015, 09:01 PM
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That is symbolism.

The real Satan is the evil that dwells in all humans.
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What is the source of that evil?
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Free will.

I hope you are not invoking the "devil" made me do it excuse.
Free will is not the source of evil; it's the avenue. Something or someone had to put those thoughts/desires in our heart/mind.
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Old 02-14-2015, 09:17 PM
 
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Who, or what is adversarial to the nature of men?
the literalist. Although there is no "bad guys" it's just that to be saved we have to start from something else.

Many ways to say it. the body, flesh, desires. all that kind of stuff.
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Old 02-14-2015, 10:29 PM
 
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Free will is not the source of evil; it's the avenue. Something or someone had to put those thoughts/desires in our heart/mind.


What a convenient excuse! Any evil we do it is out of our hands.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Qfbrc1jdo

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Old 02-14-2015, 10:54 PM
 
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Who, or what is adversarial to the nature of men?
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Who is the real Satan? He is an angel who rebelled against God and is now in opposition to him--an adversary.
A one minute response, if you follow the program?
What about conformity, instead of diversity?
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Old 02-14-2015, 11:00 PM
 
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Charles Darwin.
You know Freak, I admire your responses every now and then. I would say Charles Darwin, Nietzche, Freud and Marx. Nietzche lead to Nazism and world War II, nothing more evil then that. Freud created Cocaine and lead to ideas embracing immorality that lead to a lot of pain and suffering, nothing more evil than that. Marx created Communism which lead to a lot of tyranny in the world which is probably even worse than Hitler. Darwin stole an idea that was around for a long time but never given popular thought, sensationalized it, and created the whole industry of pseudo-science which has lead to a lot of misguidance. That's not to say I don't believe in Evolution but not necessarily Dawrinian Evolution.
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Old 02-14-2015, 11:03 PM
 
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Who, or what is adversarial to the nature of men?
Hey, this is a really good question.

Essentially what is adversarial to man is what stems from man's primal nature unchecked by a higher spiritual guidance. It is Satanic to reduce man to an animal without any distinction and train him to behave that way and even embrace. Sort of like the statement, "money, power, sex," that you hear in some popular music. What you are really saying is, "dominate resources, use resources to control other people's behavior, and finaly take that control and dominate the other sex," much like a Lion in the forest. The sadness of the primal is that it does not lead to happiness but increased anxiety and torment over fulfilling the need.
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Old 02-14-2015, 11:30 PM
 
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You know Freak, I admire your responses every now and then. I would say Charles Darwin, Nietzche, Freud and Marx. Nietzche lead to Nazism and world War II, nothing more evil then that. Freud created Cocaine and lead to ideas embracing immorality that lead to a lot of pain and suffering, nothing more evil than that. Marx created Communism which lead to a lot of tyranny in the world which is probably even worse than Hitler. Darwin stole an idea that was around for a long time but never given popular thought, sensationalized it, and created the whole industry of pseudo-science which has lead to a lot of misguidance. That's not to say I don't believe in Evolution but not necessarily Dawrinian Evolution.
You are very wrong in regards to Darwin stealing someone else idea. If so why did he sit on it for over 2 decades? Did Wallace also steal it? Who had the idea of natural selection prior to Darwin and Wallace? He never sensationalized it, he was a shy person who was concerned on the affect it would have on his wife.

It is not uncommon for certain Christians to demonized Darwin for religious purposes, guess the 9th Commandment is not too important to folks here.
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