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Old 07-13-2015, 05:07 PM
 
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It wouldn't help because it focuses on the letter . . . not the Spirit. Christ abides with us so we do not need anyone to teach us. God has "written in our hearts." Pleroo can test the Spirit of anything thrown at her using the Spirit within us all . . . agape love. That is the test of God's truth . . . not studying words from ancient writings.
Who said it was written on your hearts?...
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Old 07-13-2015, 05:11 PM
 
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You have nothing to base your faith on if you wish to discount the book which is how you know he exists in the first place...
Know who exists?
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Old 07-13-2015, 05:12 PM
 
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Know who exists?
G-d...
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Old 07-13-2015, 05:14 PM
 
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G-d...
You don't think people can know (believe) God exists without reading a book?
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Old 07-13-2015, 05:18 PM
 
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You go girl!



In a way this is true, from a certain point of view. Satan really is the reptilian brain that is the essential part of our emotive system which provides the inner drives we must learn to control. The process of discriminating among those drives (good and evil) and exercising self-control is the way we develop and mature our embryo Spirit for the next life. We do not know the specifics of HOW self-control matures our embryo Spirit . . . but we are told that the water of life (that flows with us) is involved with the Spirit. I have presented my views elsewhere on how this internal process of maturing our Spirit, called Baptism, might work. So, in that sense, Satan does work for God in maturing His children.
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In that sense, I could agree, perhaps. Maybe that is what Richard meant.
Satan is a metaphor and so is God.

The idea might be for humans to desist with the eternal looped drive of thinking they 'know good and evil' when they so obviously do not.

It is in the not knowing where all the problem of humanity can be sourced.

Understanding how the dualism thinking process and and action propels the emotions 'this way and that' and examining the impacts of such behaviors could go a long way in healing the beast...

But yes, it is possible that in the spiritual sense, the human condition and position is akin to being in an insane asylum where no one but yourself is able to cure your insanity and part of that process involves ditching the dualistic tendency to view things as 'good' and 'evil' (and choosing which 'side' one will take) and adopting a more sane understanding of conscious experience apart from such thinking.

A bit like graduating, only more akin to healing - being cured of affliction.

The physical universe and earth = a place where insane spirits must go in order to have the opportunity to be cured of their insanity...or stay in that zone until they do.
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Old 07-13-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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Who said it was written on your hearts?...
Our conscience bares witness that within us there is.
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Old 07-13-2015, 05:55 PM
 
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Our conscience bares witness that within us there is.
I don't buy it...because that's right out of the book you don't think too much of, so you are you bsing?...
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Old 07-13-2015, 05:56 PM
 
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You don't think people can know (believe) God exists without reading a book?
I guess the same way they know Allah exist...
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Old 07-13-2015, 06:01 PM
 
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The book is rather a foundation...
For some.

For others that foundation has the solidity of a house of cards built on a toothpick.

I have no need of a book to find my true path. Very, very many of us don't.
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Old 07-13-2015, 06:04 PM
 
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I don't buy it...because that's right out of the book you don't think too much of, so you are you bsing?...
I know without doubt(not because the bible says so)that my conscience bares witness to that which the bible calls a law written within my heart. In other words i know that within me there is something that bares witness to that which is God.

Now now, who said i do not think much of the scriptures?, i do not believe what the fundamentalist believes they are, since when has that been not thinking much of them?.
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