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Old 02-18-2015, 04:08 PM
 
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I know that the Holy Spirit is God.

What I am asking for is the actual Biblical reference FOR THE PRACTISE of worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father and the Son as introduced into the churches by the modified Nicene creed of 381 A.D.

Nowhere in the NT is that taught for the church to practise in that manner.

However, there are scripture testifying that the Holy Spirit is sent to glorify Jesus Christ; John 16:14

The Holy Spirit's testimony will be the same as ours in leading us to glorify the Son of God. John 15:26-27

Scripture is clear on the only way to honour God the Father is by honouring the Son in worship; John 5:23 I believe it was not an oversight by Jesus to forget about honouring the Holy Spirit because Jesus was stating the will of the Father in how to honour the Father, and that was by only honouring the Son.

The obedience Paul was talking about in Philippians 2:12 was having this mind of Christ in lift the name of Jesus Christ above every other name to the glory of God the Father; Philippians 2:5-11.

The glory of God rests on the Son; John 13:31-32 There is no other way to glorify God the Father by.

His disciples are led by the Holy Spirit in seeking the glory of the Son of God in witnessing; and so it is to be the same in worship.

I know that the internet listed scriptural references for each line of the Nicene creed, but if you examine the one for the practise of worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son, it is not proof at all.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

So the way in coming to God the Father by the only way of the Son really is narrow in worship & in fellowship. 1 Corinthians 2:2

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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Old 02-18-2015, 08:06 PM
 
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Scripture teaching us to pray to the Holy Spirit?

There isn't one.

In fact, the only vague reference to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit -- the one in 1 John 5:7 -- was almost definitely added in there long after the original writing. There is no Biblical passage that teaches the Trinity with mention of all three: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The story is that Trinitarian absolutists insisted that some passage be added because of that fact.

The Bible leaves things pretty vague when it comes to the Godhead and the later Roman Church insisted that things be a lot more specific than the Bible teaches them. I believe in God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. I believe that we are to pray to the Father. When we do so, we are praying to the Son and the Spirit by association. Answers to prayers come to us through the Holy Spirit, so it's not like the Spirit isn't privy to our prayers.
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Old 02-19-2015, 04:48 PM
 
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I know that the Holy Spirit is God.

What I am asking for is the actual Biblical reference FOR THE PRACTISE of worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father and the Son as introduced into the churches by the modified Nicene creed of 381 A.D.

Nowhere in the NT is that taught for the church to practise in that manner.

However, there are scripture testifying that the Holy Spirit is sent to glorify Jesus Christ; John 16:14

The Holy Spirit's testimony will be the same as ours in leading us to glorify the Son of God. John 15:26-27

Scripture is clear on the only way to honour God the Father is by honouring the Son in worship; John 5:23 I believe it was not an oversight by Jesus to forget about honouring the Holy Spirit because Jesus was stating the will of the Father in how to honour the Father, and that was by only honouring the Son.

The obedience Paul was talking about in Philippians 2:12 was having this mind of Christ in lift the name of Jesus Christ above every other name to the glory of God the Father; Philippians 2:5-11.

The glory of God rests on the Son; John 13:31-32 There is no other way to glorify God the Father by.

His disciples are led by the Holy Spirit in seeking the glory of the Son of God in witnessing; and so it is to be the same in worship.

I know that the internet listed scriptural references for each line of the Nicene creed, but if you examine the one for the practise of worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son, it is not proof at all.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

So the way in coming to God the Father by the only way of the Son really is narrow in worship & in fellowship. 1 Corinthians 2:2

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


The HS--has no name--every living being does---the HS is never said to get worship, honor, or anything. In many important passages where The Father and son are spoken of--no mention of the HS. Never mentioned to be sitting on a throne--- The JW teachers are correct about the HS--it is Gods active force.
The trinity was created at Catholicism councils--it does not exist. 2 billion are being mislead--Jesus has a God--John 20:17, Rev 3:12-- believe Jesus.
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Old 02-19-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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The Holy Spirit's role is not about receiving worship.

The Holy Spirit is one with the Father and Son - since believers are baptized in the Name of all Three.
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