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Old 03-07-2015, 07:57 PM
 
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You take my reply out of context. The originally post was: Why might a spirit not also have a body? My response was: He ( a spirit) has, but not of flesh and bones. We (as humans) are living in natural bodies and are not spirits like angels etc. We are bound here on earth by space and time and have bodies made from earth, which perish and are mortal (dies). In death our soul and spirit leaves this natural body and lives in a spiritual body, not bound by time or space without a physical body. In the resurrection the dead physical body is raised and changed in an immortal one, which is a spiritual body of flesh and bones, where our soul and spirit lives in forever, united with Christ, and is not limited to space and time. But this all refers to the First Resurrection, the believers who die in Christ as condition. The next resurrection 1000 years later for all the rest of humans should be different, as Paul says, there are different bodies raised.
Yes, different bodies raised. Some to heaven in a spirit body - 1st Cor. 15:50
The majority of mankind in a healthy physical body on earth - Acts 24:15 - in a future or later resurrection.

Adam was a living soul. - Genesis 2:7 - Adam did Not have a soul.
Adam became a sinning soul. Sinning souls die according to Ezekiel 18 vs 4,20, and souls can be destroyed - Acts 3:23
Adam went from non-life, to life, back to non-life - Genesis 3:19
Adam ' returned ' to where he started. A person can Not return to a place he never was before.
Adam returned to the dust of the ground -> non-life.

The first or earlier resurrection is for those called to heaven - Rev. 20:6; 2:10; 5:9,10
The later resurrection on earth takes place during - Not after - the millennial-long day of Jesus ruling over earth.
After the 1000 years it is Satan who is released from the abyss - Rev. 20:7
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Old 03-09-2015, 10:59 AM
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Yes, different bodies raised. Some to heaven in a spirit body - 1st Cor. 15:50
The majority of mankind in a healthy physical body on earth - Acts 24:15 - in a future or later resurrection.

Adam was a living soul. - Genesis 2:7 - Adam did Not have a soul.
Adam became a sinning soul. Sinning souls die according to Ezekiel 18 vs 4,20, and souls can be destroyed - Acts 3:23
Adam went from non-life, to life, back to non-life - Genesis 3:19
Adam ' returned ' to where he started. A person can Not return to a place he never was before.
Adam returned to the dust of the ground -> non-life.

The first or earlier resurrection is for those called to heaven - Rev. 20:6; 2:10; 5:9,10
The later resurrection on earth takes place during - Not after - the millennial-long day of Jesus ruling over earth.
After the 1000 years it is Satan who is released from the abyss - Rev. 20:7
I agree, the First resurrection is for the heavenly realm, they have glorious bodies like Jesus has now and will reign with Christ in the millennium.

The people that live in the millennium have physical bodies and are left behind after the rapture of the saints or are born in the millennium, the resurrection is at the end of the 1000 year reign of Christ.

The next resurrection is 1000 years later (Rev 20:4+5) for all people who died, including the ones of Acts 24:15 (OT people), which is of the just (living according to the law) and unjust (transgressors) and they are raised after the 1000 years (Rev 20:5). They will be judged according their works, what they have done.

The word soul can mean the spiritual part of a human, a living soul, which cannot die; or it can mean a mortal human, which has a physical body, which will die, context will tell us.

Adam's body died and went back to dust. Adam's soul is still in the Sheol, it did not die, but "sleeps" there.

Satan is bound before the First resurrection after the battle of Armageddon and cast into the bottemless pit and released at the end of the millennium before the second resurrection 1000 years later, both events are at the very end of the millennium, 1000 years between them. Jesus Christ reigns with the First resurrection saints, that means the First resurrection and the second coming of Christ go together, when the millennium begins. The only problem I see with the space that Satan has to gather the army that comes against Jerusalem, how much time would that be?
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