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It is a direct result of whatever implications result from applying agape love to the verse or situation and testing if it is compatible with agape love. You seem to have trouble understanding this simple idea of applyinf the Holy Spirit of agape love to EVERYTHING to determine what is of God and truth . . . NOT the "precepts and doctrines of men" derived from words "written in ink" and stone.
Jimmiej, if you are unable to perceive when the Spirit is moving in you---that's because it isn't.
Don't you realize how wishy-washy this sounds? How would one perceive "when the Spirit is moving in you"? Do you get a tingle running up your leg, like Obama did for Chris Matthews? Do you start speaking in tongues and handling snakes? Do you get an erection? These are all examples of how someone can claim a Spirit moving in them, and who is to say they are wrong? I believe this "moving Spirit" is simply an overwhelming emotion, utilized by many cult leaders to herd their sheep.
If someone disagrees with you who claims to perceive the Spirit moving, and I know many who would, would you dismiss their claims as having the wrong Spirit or that their perception was wrong? Are their perceptions any more invalid simply because they don't agree with you?
This is actually a question without a basis in fact, promise or reason.
Thank you. I don't think it's a great question at all. It's that same old tired Internet tactic you find on every message board where someone states their view and another person responds with "so what you're REALLY saying is... <insert leap to something the first person never said> ".
There seems to be an odd pov among the inerrancy folks, clutched tightly, that the people who see the Bible as a work of men therefore dismiss it. Can it not be that we see great value in Scripture without having to resort to deifying them? Why not?
There seems to be an odd pov among the inerrancy folks, clutched tightly, that the people who see the Bible as a work of men therefore dismiss it. Can it not be that we see great value in Scripture without having to resort to deifying them? Why not?
YES !!!!!!
Just because I don't believe in god or that Jesus rose from the dead doesn't mean everything the religion teaches is bad. I don't see the big deal with that. Jesus was a flat out good teacher. The stuff I don't think happened doesn't change that fact. The bible, taught me that 6000 years ago people acted as stupidly as I do today. So why not try as I might to "at least" be no more stupid tomorrow then I was today.
The line I draw is when people use the literal religion as a weapon to control others. "accountability for" one's actions" is not the same as "you are going to hell if you don't think like me."
Don't you realize how wishy-washy this sounds? How would one perceive "when the Spirit is moving in you"? Do you get a tingle running up your leg, like Obama did for Chris Matthews? Do you start speaking in tongues and handling snakes? Do you get an erection? These are all examples of how someone can claim a Spirit moving in them, and who is to say they are wrong? I believe this "moving Spirit" is simply an overwhelming emotion, utilized by many cult leaders to herd their sheep.
If someone disagrees with you who claims to perceive the Spirit moving, and I know many who would, would you dismiss their claims as having the wrong Spirit or that their perception was wrong? Are their perceptions any more invalid simply because they don't agree with you?
You asked, I'll tell you. It feels like gas, but with no fart.
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