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Old 03-25-2015, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The current question of women in leadership in the church would do.
Thank you. I appreciate you finally providing an example, but how does this contradict the words of Jesus as written in the Bible since He did not talk about it?

Paul did talk about it, and it is a good example where you can search for the answer with the help of the Spirit, prayer and the Holy Bible. Liberal political correctness demands all people are equal in all matters, and you confuse this with the Holy Spirit speaking to you. How do you know you are not talking to yourself? You say you test it against the "agape love", but you'll have to make yourself the judge of what is loving and what it not, and a church leadership question is not a matter of "loving vs not loving", it is a simple question of different people having different roles in the church.
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:41 AM
 
Location: New England
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Finn Jarber, let me tell you something that is in your bible that you not only do not believe is true,and do not believe is in the bible. Proving what i have said all along to you, if you do not believe what is written in the bible, how can you believe that which is not there. ...............The believer is led by the peace of God within him.

Before you try and say it is scripture that gives us peace, you are rejecting how Jesus said it comes............ He gives us peace.
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:53 AM
 
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Finn Jarber, let me tell you something that is in your bible that you not only do not believe is true,and do not believe is in the bible. Proving what i have said all along to you, if you do not believe what is written in the bible, how can you believe that which is not there. ...............The believer is led by the peace of God within him.

Before you try and say it is scripture that gives us peace, you are rejecting how Jesus said it comes............ He gives us peace.
Yes, I told you He gives us peace. I am glad you listened.

Jesus agrees: "Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid"

Your comments about by beliefs are lies (as always).
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:29 AM
 
Location: New England
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Yes, I told you He gives us peace. I am glad you listened.

Jesus agrees: "Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid"

Your comments about by beliefs are lies (as always).
Huh When did you mention peace to me ?

Do you believe that the believers are led by peace within ?.

I know you do not see or believe this is in your bible, so my comments are true. If not say you see it and believe, it is really that easy.

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Old 03-25-2015, 06:42 AM
 
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Huh When did you mention peace to me ?
The date and time is irrelevant. I must have mentioned is dozens of times. John 14:27 is one my favorite verses.
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:45 AM
 
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Yes, I told you He gives us peace. I am glad you listened.

Jesus agrees: "Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid"

Your comments about by beliefs are lies (as always).
What is that peace for and can you use scriptures from your bible to back up what you believe it is for ?.
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:03 AM
 
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If anyone needs more information about their own beliefs, they can just ask pcamps, and he'll make something up.

But then again, why would anyone need someone else to explain their own beliefs to them?
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:04 AM
 
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What is that peace for and can you use scriptures from your bible to back up what you believe it is for ?.

ignore him camps he does this in every thread to try and derail it
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:14 AM
 
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ignore him camps he does this in every thread to try and derail it
Actually he initiated the conversation. He asked a question, and I answered it. How does that add up to what you accuse me of?

You making accusations like this derails the thread more than anything I have said.

I am done with pcamps anyway as he has a habit of misrepresenting other peoples beliefs, and asking questions while refusing to answer anything himself.
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:25 AM
 
Location: New England
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Actually he initiated the conversation. He asked a question, and I answered it. How does that add up to what you accuse me of?

You making accusations like this derails the thread more than anything I have said.

I am done with pcamps anyway as he has a habit of misrepresenting other peoples beliefs, and asking questions while refusing to answer anything himself.

My question was do you believe the peace of God is what the believer is led by?, i did not ask whether you believe Jesus gives us peace. So again acting the artful dodger you avoided the question.
You knew perfectly well that was what i asked and further proof that having been presented with something that is according to the spirit of the scriptures, you choose to fight it rather than acknowledge and accept it because you are sold out to your erroneous misinterpretations of the bible and spent to much time and effort securing yourself in them, that to forsake them, would mean having to humble yourself to let go of them. Many of us have been there on our journeys, but accepting our errors have moved on.
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