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In this video, Antony Flew gave his reasons for leaving atheism and evolution. What I find interesting is he left atheism and evolution due to the recent findings of the enormous complexity which looks to him like the work of intelligence. His reasons for this change were due to recent findings in DNA the transcription of DNA to RNA and RNA into protein and the process of protein folding caused him to rethink his understanding of atheism and belief in evolution. It is my personal opinion that Antony Flew was correct to believe in an intelligent Creator due to the complexities of creation.
Just like being in a foxhole in a war, there are few atheists over 70 years of age. Seems to me is just looking to cover all the possibilities before he breath his last?
Doesn't an amoeba have DNA, and what does that prove in terms of "complexity of life?"
Yes zthatzmanz28, an amoeba does have DNA. It is not just that it has DNA but that the complexities of the DNA and all the complexities which keep the little critter alive are so incredible that randomness could not have just put such a complex machine together. These are some of the things which caused Antony to rethink his evolution and atheism. He used to be one of the world's foremost speakers to advance atheism.
It's a solid deduction, increasing in its acceptance as Flew says.
I'm going on memory here and haven't been able to find the quote
on the internet, but many years ago Prince Charles (the future King of England)
said something to the effect that to assume that there is/was not a Creator
would be the same as saying that a hurricane swirled into a junkyard
and its winds assembled a perfectly new Rolls Royce from the contents
of the junkyard.
I don't know if any of you have read it, but a similar proposal is made
in Professor of Biochemistry Michael Behe's book, "Darwin's Black Box".
Why is this in the Christianity forum? Antony Flew didn't become a Christian.
Because evolution is used against the Creationist's understanding that God created all plant and animal life and humans without the use of evolution.
I was letting the Christians here know that there are great minds out there who no longer ascribe to the idea of evolution but that an omnipotent intelligence created everything.
Flew did not believe in the God of Christendom but in an Aristotelian God. But that is beside the matter. The point is that there are reasons why great minds are leaving evolution based on recent findings in DNA, RNA and the folding of proteins and all the complexities of the machinery of life which could not occur without a Creator or grand intelligence behind it all.
Because evolution is used against the Creationist's understanding that God created all plant and animal life and humans without the use of evolution.
I was letting the Christians here know that there are great minds out there who no longer ascribe to the idea of evolution but that an omnipotent intelligence created everything.
Flew did not believe in the God of Christendom but in an Aristotelian God. But that is beside the matter. The point is that there are reasons why great minds are leaving evolution based on recent findings in DNA, RNA and the folding of proteins and all the complexities of the machinery of life which could not occur without a Creator or grand intelligence behind it all.
So are you arguing against evolution or against abiogenesis? Anthony Flew supported the concept of Darwinian evolution, but did not believe it explained the beginnings of life.
So are you arguing against evolution or against abiogenesis? Anthony Flew supported the concept of Darwinian evolution, but did not believe it explained the beginnings of life.
You would have to ask the now deceased Antony concerning that. All I know is he gave up atheism due to seeing all the complexities in DNA, RNA and the folding of proteins. He could not see how creation came as a random event without an intelligent creator and stated the fossil record shows fully developed animals and humans.
"Associated Press distributed a December 9 story by religion writer Richard N. Ostling about Flew's conversion. Flew told AP that his current ideas had some similarity with those of U.S. "intelligent design" theorists, who believe the complexity of life points to an intelligent source of life, rather than the random and natural processes posited by Charles Darwin's theory of evolution." That quote is from: http://www.bible.ca/tracks/converted...er-atheist.htm
My personal opinion on Antony Flew's departure from evolution and atheism
The rejection of evolution is based on ignorance of the science and the mistaken belief that it somehow is in contradiction to a belief in God. It is NOT. Evolution says absolutely NOTHING about how life began. That is abiogenesis which does NOT have any scientific support at this time.
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