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Old 04-26-2015, 01:09 AM
 
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Pope Francis and his growing litany of modern-day martyrs :: Catholic News Agency (CNA)

“God’s Word is always rejected by some. God’s Word is inconvenient when you have a stone heart, when you have a pagan heart,” he said.

Francis noted how the whole history of Revelation is marked by the many martyrs who have been killed “for their faith and loyalty towards God’s Word, God’s Truth.”

So many leaders looking the other way is what the shame is.
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Old 04-26-2015, 05:51 AM
 
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He's right. "truth, justice, and liberty for all people" gets ya killed.
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Old 04-26-2015, 05:57 AM
 
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Pope Francis and his growing litany of modern-day martyrs :: Catholic News Agency (CNA)

“God’s Word is always rejected by some. God’s Word is inconvenient when you have a stone heart, when you have a pagan heart,” he said.

Francis noted how the whole history of Revelation is marked by the many martyrs who have been killed “for their faith and loyalty towards God’s Word, God’s Truth.”

So many leaders looking the other way is what the shame is.
Church leaders or government leaders?

Government leaders are NOT religious leaders. If they were, which religion would they promote? May be they could have a different religion spotlighted each week? Or each month?

Why does every evangelical think or demand that government leaders up hold and promote their form of Christianity?

We all KNOW that the countries that are RUN BY RELIGIOUS GOVERNMENTS all seem to be on our "terrorist"
list right? and yet the fundies continue to demand christian sharia law be implemented here?

If religious governments are so great, let's STOP attacking and hating ISIS and IRAN.
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Old 08-31-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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He's right. "truth, justice, and liberty for all people" gets ya killed.

Isn't there also a song about only the good die young?

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Old 08-31-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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Church leaders or government leaders?

Government leaders are NOT religious leaders. If they were, which religion would they promote? May be they could have a different religion spotlighted each week? Or each month?

Why does every evangelical think or demand that government leaders up hold and promote their form of Christianity?
Maybe actually holding accountable those that kill in the name of their religion would go a long way.
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We all KNOW that the countries that are RUN BY RELIGIOUS GOVERNMENTS all seem to be on our "terrorist"
list right? and yet the fundies continue to demand christian sharia law be implemented here?

If religious governments are so great, let's STOP attacking and hating ISIS and IRAN.
No one is suggesting we want a religion-led government. But we would like it if our government were not anti-religion. The founding fathers certainly intended for religion to be in the public square. It's why it's written all over the monuments in DC. It's why 9 of 13 original states had official religions.
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Old 08-31-2015, 11:54 AM
 
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I would not mind having a beer with him over a game of Scrabble. You do not have to agree about God to have a beer and a rousing game of scrabble.
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Old 08-31-2015, 11:56 AM
 
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Maybe actually holding accountable those that kill in the name of their religion would go a long way.

No one is suggesting we want a religion-led government. But we would like it if our government were not anti-religion.
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Neutral is not anti
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Old 08-31-2015, 12:22 PM
 
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Neutral is not anti
True.
But the Government isnt neutral, is it now?

There are 435 representatives in the House of Representatives. The number of representatives each state gets is based on its population.
-Executive
-Judicial
-Legislative


The judges are nominated by the President and approved by the Senate. They have no term limits. The Supreme Court is the highest court in the land. Its decisions are final, and no other court can overrule those decisions. Decisions of the Supreme Court set precedents—new ways of interpreting the law.

2010 Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission The Supreme Court ruled, 5–4, that the government cannot restrict the spending of corporations on political campaigns, maintaining that it's their First Amendment right to support candidates as they choose
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But guess what there are more branches now.

A tree will be know its fruit.


Through court cases, the judicial branch explains the meaning of the Constitution and laws passed by Congress.

Does the Constitution need to be explained?
Ask yourself whats going on with this Judicial Branch?



2: In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellateJurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.
3: The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.
Section 3

1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
2: The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.



http://constitutionus.com/

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Old 08-31-2015, 12:34 PM
 
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Church leaders or government leaders?

Government leaders are NOT religious leaders. If they were, which religion would they promote? May be they could have a different religion spotlighted each week? Or each month?

Why does every evangelical think or demand that government leaders up hold and promote their form of Christianity?

We all KNOW that the countries that are RUN BY RELIGIOUS GOVERNMENTS all seem to be on our "terrorist"
list right? and yet the fundies continue to demand christian sharia law be implemented here?

If religious governments are so great, let's STOP attacking and hating ISIS and IRAN.
Actually we have seen that the same can be said for secular belief. Russia; North Korea; China and many other politically established countries. .To some secular political belief is their religion as core belief.
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Old 08-31-2015, 12:54 PM
 
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Neutral is not anti
I agree. I certainly never said it wasn't. But our government has not acted neutral.
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