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"Now this expression, 'He ascended, what does it mean, except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth? He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens that He might fill all things."
This reference is universal in its scope. God bless.
Yes Shana I believe Jesus will fill all things---make complete, accomplish what He came for. But nothing in this verse indicates that hell is not eternal.
Yes Shana I believe Jesus will fill all things---make complete, accomplish what He came for. But nothing in this verse indicates that hell is not eternal.
(If I may respond-)
ILNC, there may be those who say hell can't be eternal because of scripture that disagrees (death and hell cast into lake of fire, etc...not to get too technical), but I believe there is a place for the remnants of the carnal nature. Yes, I do believe He will have all men to be saved - but this is how I interpret scripture, conceive that God will get what He desires, and still have a place of burning: I believe it's the dividing of the soul (carnal nature) that we know cannot enter in, that will be dealt with. This is the liar, the thief, the drunkard, etc.
We all still have the carnal nature in us, and it must not remain. Some have more of it than others - Christians die with it - it still can't remain.
An everlasting furnace doesn't sound necessary, but whatever...
Yes Shana I believe Jesus will fill all things---make complete, accomplish what He came for. But nothing in this verse indicates that hell is not eternal.
If Jesus fills all things, ILNC, descending to the lower parts of the earth and ascending high above the heavens, then He will be all things, even in what you believe to be an eternal hell. How can hell be eternal if Jesus Christ, who is life fills all things? Eternal hell, occupied with individuals separated from God for all of eternity cannot be true if Jesus will be in all things. No one will be separated from God for all of eternity, if Jesus is to fill all things. What was Jesus to accomplish? The Father sent Him on a mission to be the Savior of the world. God bless.
If Jesus fills all things, ILNC, descending to the lower parts of the earth and ascending high above the heavens, then He will be all things, even in what you believe to be an eternal hell. How can hell be eternal if Jesus Christ, who is life fills all things? Eternal hell, occupied with individuals separated from God for all of eternity cannot be true if Jesus will be in all things. No one will be separated from God for all of eternity, if Jesus is to fill all things. What was Jesus to accomplish? The Father sent Him on a mission to be the Savior of the world. God bless.
Shana, we believe in a God who raiseth the dead, and we further believe that the all that has proceeded forth from our God (the everything/ ta pavnte) is the same exact ta pavnte/ the all that ends in Him. He is the Source, the Sustaining Force, and the Goal of everything. "From Him everything comes, through Him everything exists, and in Him everything ends!"
If Jesus fills all things, ILNC, descending to the lower parts of the earth and ascending high above the heavens, then He will be all things, even in what you believe to be an eternal hell. How can hell be eternal if Jesus Christ, who is life fills all things? Eternal hell, occupied with individuals separated from God for all of eternity cannot be true if Jesus will be in all things. No one will be separated from God for all of eternity, if Jesus is to fill all things. What was Jesus to accomplish? The Father sent Him on a mission to be the Savior of the world. God bless.
How do you get this Scripture is talking about hell not being eternal?? He accomplished being the Savior of the world. He is the Savior of the world, but He does not say hell will be abolished. This verse is talking about the exists of God.
The word fill in Ephe 4:10 traces back to a root which means to fill full of, come, completed, ended, filled, fulfilled.
This verse it talking about filling us with the Holy Spirit.
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How do you get this Scripture is talking about hell not being eternal??
Hell cannot be eternal, ILNC, if Jesus is to fill all things. He descended to the lower parts of the earth and ascended far above all the heavens to fill all things.
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This verse it talking about filling us with the Holy Spirit.
All will be filled with the Holy Spirit then, if Jesus is to fill all things. God sent Jesus on a misson to be the Savior of the world. He is indeed the Savior and as the Savior, He will save the world. This is why all will be subjected to Him, so that God may be all in all. (1 Corinthians 15) God bless.
Shana, we believe in a God who raiseth the dead, and we further believe that the all that has proceeded forth from our God (the everything/ ta pavnte) is the same exact ta pavnte/ the all that ends in Him. He is the Source, the Sustaining Force, and the Goal of everything. "From Him everything comes, through Him everything exists, and in Him everything ends!"
Amen! God bless.
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How can hell be eternal if Jesus Christ, who is life fills all things? Eternal hell, occupied with individuals separated from God for all of eternity cannot be true if Jesus will be in all things. No one will be separated from God for all of eternity, if Jesus is to fill all things. What was Jesus to accomplish? The Father sent Him on a mission to be the Savior of the world. God bless.
