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Old 06-17-2015, 05:24 PM
 
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Yet.....Jesus' own words are recorded in the Gospels claiming to be God. Moderator cut: Orphaned
Really where? Where does Jesus apply the word "God" to himself?

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Old 06-17-2015, 05:25 PM
 
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Yet Jesus was also the awaited messiah, which the Jews deny, so how reliable are they?
Some Jews. My daughter is a Jew and she agrees he is the messiah and agrees the Trinity is false.
 
Old 06-17-2015, 05:30 PM
 
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Yet Jesus was also the awaited messiah, which the Jews deny, so how reliable are they?
Now, how do you know that he was the awaited messiah?...Do you know what the Messiah is to do according to the TaNaKh?...Why don't you find out...Before you debate with me over it...
 
Old 06-17-2015, 05:31 PM
 
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Really where? Where does Jesus apply the word "God" to himself?
Right there in John 53:1...
 
Old 06-17-2015, 05:37 PM
 
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Some Jews. My daughter is a Jew and she agrees he is the messiah and agrees the Trinity is false.
How is your daughter a Jew?...


You do know that the word Moshiach means simply anointed one, don't you?...There were so many in the TaNaKh that were called Moshiach...So, it is really nothing special...
 
Old 06-17-2015, 05:48 PM
 
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How is your daughter a Jew?...


You do know that the word Moshiach means simply anointed one, don't you?...There were so many in the TaNaKh that were called Moshiach...So, it is really nothing special...
Her mother is a Jew.

Yes the word just means anointed and is used of many in the OT. It is special as it implies and anointing by God for a special task from God. This is why Kings should not have been killed by man, as David spoke of with Saul, and why high Priests served until they died. It is special.
 
Old 06-17-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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That's a tough question...

If it was a tough question to answer, if you cant say with authority that their intention to worship the "one true God" is outweighed by their belief in the [possibly] erroneous trinity doctrine, then why do you so boldly declare that those who believe that the ONE God is a trinity are idol worshipers?


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However, my conclusion I came to resulted from intense study...Once I found conflicts and sorted them out, either the trinity was a fact or it wasn't...Jews have been around a lot longer than Christians, how don't they know that their G-d is a trinity?...
Okay. But that has absolutely no bearing on the question.
 
Old 06-17-2015, 05:58 PM
 
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Really where? Where does Jesus apply the word "God" to himself?
Revelation 1. But of course, that's not a Gospel. OK.....John. Specifically chapters 8:58.
 
Old 06-17-2015, 05:59 PM
 
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Her mother is a Jew.

Yes the word just means anointed and is used of many in the OT. It is special as it implies and anointing by God for a special task from God. This is why Kings should not have been killed by man, as David spoke of with Saul, and why high Priests served until they died. It is special.
What?...You don't believe it makes him G-d?...
 
Old 06-17-2015, 06:17 PM
 
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Revelation 1. But of course, that's not a Gospel. OK.....John. Specifically chapters 8:58.
No, he does not say that in revelation 1...
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