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Beresheet 4:
1. The man had known, Eve, his wife and she conceived and bore Cain, and she said, I have acquired a man with HaShem 2. And she continued giving birth to his brother to Abel.
Commentary:
[Now] the man had known Eve his wife. The translation in the past-perfect follows Rashi, that the conception and birth of Cain had occurred before the sin and expulsion of Adam and Eve from Eden.
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Beresheet 4:
1. The man had known, Eve, his wife and she conceived and bore Cain, and she said, I have acquired a man with HaShem 2. And she continued giving birth to his brother to Abel.
Commentary:
[Now] the man had known Eve his wife. The translation in the past perfect follows Rashi, that the conception and birth of Cain had occurred before the sin and expulsion of Adam and Eve from Eden.
Sorry...the text really doesn't say that they conceived them in Eden.
Sorry...the text really doesn't say that they conceived them in Eden.
It does if you can read Hebrew...Sorry...It says that he HAD KNOW, not knew...Which makes sense because when G-d created them He told them to be fruitful and multiply...
And again...A Christian comes along and tells the Jews that they don't know how to read their own religious texts...And that they don't know how to read their own language, but you do...
It does if you can read Hebrew...Sorry...It says that he HAD KNOW, not knew...Which makes sense because when G-d created them He told them to be fruitful and multiply...
No...it really doesn't.
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And again...A Christian comes along and tells the Jews that they don't know how to read their own religious texts...And that they don't know how to read their own language, but you do...
No...but someone who knows how to read Hebrew can actually see what it says. And it doesn't suggest she conceived them in Eden.
Beresheet 4:
1. The man had known, Eve, his wife and she conceived and bore Cain, and she said, I have acquired a man with HaShem 2. And she continued giving birth to his brother to Abel.
Commentary:
[Now] the man had known Eve his wife. The translation in the past-perfect follows Rashi, that the conception and birth of Cain had occurred before the sin and expulsion of Adam and Eve from Eden.
Actually it is a perfect not a past perfect. In fact a Qal perfect.
Thus the translation is he "knew", indicating in the past from the point in time when the event was being written about. It has nothing to do with the event happening before the expulsion.
The past use has nothing to do with a particular period of time, except in the context of the full account.
Genesis 3:24 shows it happened AFTER the expulsion.
Genesis 3:24 24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Then the account speaks of the conception happening after the expulsion.
The same chapter speaks of Cain knowing his wife in the past.
KJV Genesis 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
This does not mean he was born, married and a conception occurred prior to the expulsion. It simply is placing it in an orderly fashion.
It is a historical account and follows the other uses of the Qal perfect with the word Yada(Yaw-dah')
But, it does not say that it was Satan in the form of a snake...It says that:
1Now the serpent was cunning, more than all the beasts of the field that the Lord God had made, and it said to the woman, "Did God indeed say, 'You shall not eat of any of the trees of the garden?'"
That is all it says...It says nothing about Satan in the form of a snake or possessing the snake...It says that it was one of the beasts of the field that G-d had made...Period...
No...but someone who knows how to read Hebrew can actually see what it says. And it doesn't suggest she conceived them in Eden.
So, now you can read Hebrew?...
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