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What is your position regarding God and those who believe? Irrational by whose standards? Yours? This is very specific and there is little to disagree with . . . except for your presumption that everyone who believes in God (or Christ) does these things or would support these things. Fundamentalist Christians do these things. But it is those of us, like pcamps, Pleroo, me, and others who argue against them and are NOT fundamentalist about it. It is your one-size-fits-all view that aggravates us. Science can only investigate and discover about 5% of reality. The remaining 95% is non-baryonic and beyond science . . . hardly a reason for such arrogance based on it.
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Originally Posted by Matadora
Nice...you ask a question then incorrectly answer it for me.
And yet you whine about it and don't correctly answer it. Why is that???
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Read the title of this thread...if you are a Christian coming into this thread to defend Christianity then it is assumed by the title of this thread that your are defending fundamentalism.
And there is your one-size-fits-all error in stark relief! Why would you assume that a Christian coming into this thread would NOT also condemn the fundamentalist views???
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This thread is specifically about being tired of Fundamental Christians.
And you do not think that there are Christians who also are tired of them??? You need to widen your perspective and experiences.
What you and all those who claim to disagree fail to understand is that the disagreements are about the BELIEFS ABOUT Jesus and God . . . NOT His central Gospel message of agape love and reconciliation. Everyone who searches their heart understands what agape love (concern for the well being of everyone involved) is all about and would not disagree about it. It is only the ridiculous dependence on the words "written in ink" that confuses them. They override what God has "written in our hearts" about agape love . . . and judge using the "precepts and doctrines of men" . . . NOT the Spirit of agape love (who IS God). It is pathetic. About agape love there can be no disagreement.
But not everyone agrees with that. You're the only person I have met that espouses such views. Why don't most religious people already agree with you? They should, if their "hearts" are telling them the same things.
And yet you whine about it and don't correctly answer it. Why is that???And there is your one-size-fits-all error in stark relief! Why would you assume that a Christian coming into this thread would NOT also condemn the fundamentalist views???And you do not think that there are Christians who also are tired of them??? You need to widen your perspective and experiences.
Are you capable of having a civil conversation?
Next can you please define this God that you believe in? What are the defining characteristics of this God?
How is it that you can be so close to the truth and not recognize it, Twin.
What you and all those who claim to disagree fail to understand is that the disagreements are about the BELIEFS ABOUT Jesus and God . . . NOT His central Gospel message of agape love and reconciliation. Everyone who searches their heart understands what agape love (concern for the well being of everyone involved) is all about and would not disagree about it. It is only the ridiculous dependence on the words "written in ink" that confuses them. They override what God has "written in our hearts" about agape love . . . and judge using the "precepts and doctrines of men" . . . NOT the Spirit of agape love (who IS God). It is pathetic. About agape love there can be no disagreement.
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But not everyone agrees with that. You're the only person I have met that espouses such views. Why don't most religious people already agree with you? They should, if their "hearts" are telling them the same things.
Their hearts ARE telling them the same thing because agape love cannot do otherwise . . . but they override what they feel in their hearts with the "precepts and doctrines of men" they are told they SHOULD feel if they are one with Jesus. That creates a pretty strong bias. Who among them would want to be seen as against Christ??? This was prophesied for these "latter days," Freak . . . that the majority would follow the anti-Christ apostate church.
And yet you whine about it and don't correctly answer it. Why is that???And there is your one-size-fits-all error in stark relief! Why would you assume that a Christian coming into this thread would NOT also condemn the fundamentalist views???And you do not think that there are Christians who also are tired of them??? You need to widen your perspective and experiences.
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Originally Posted by Matadora
Are you capable of having a civil conversation?
Are you capable of answering questions???
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Next can you please define this God that you believe in? What are the defining characteristics of this God?
Their hearts ARE telling them the same thing because agape love cannot do otherwise . . . but they override what they feel in their hearts with the "precepts and doctrines of men" they are told they SHOULD feel if they are one with Jesus.
How could you possibly know such a thing?? That's another extraordinary claim. Let's see your extraordinary evidence.
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That creates a pretty strong bias. Who among them would want to be seen as against Christ??? This was prophesied for these "latter days," Freak . . . that the majority would follow the anti-Christ apostate church.
Unless you are an online parodist, you really do seem to think you are some kind of modern day prophet.
Ditto that! I sure hope they knew more than 5% of the knowledge it took to put a man on the moon!
Or to discover that RNA is self-replicating. Or to treat brain cancer with a virus.
The Standard Model cannot account for 95% of the matter and energy in the universe because it is limited to the baryonic (measurable) forms. That does not mean science cannot do wonders. It just means it needs to be placed in perspective when considering such global aspects as the existence of God.
Are you capable of answering questions???Consciousness and agape love of all life.
I sure am. What I think about those who believe in a God all depends on how they first came into this belief AND what the defining characteristics of this God are.
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