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Old 08-04-2015, 10:02 AM
 
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HIV is transmitted through the sharing of needles, needle sticks, blood transfusions,sexual contact, surgical instruments. No sin necessary.


No homosexuality necessary. No "parts" needed. It happens in marriage. There is always a victim.
It has been shown, though...to run rampant among certain demographics--including gay men. Anyone with an internet connection and google can easily find the statistics.
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Old 08-04-2015, 10:10 AM
 
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It has been shown, though...to run rampant among certain demographics--including gay men. Anyone with an internet connection and google can easily find the statistics.
And heterosexual men and WOMEN...
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Old 08-04-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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In reference to the attempts made by the fundie communiuty to eliminate LGBTQ equality and SSM..why do the findies not let it be and let their god-n-the-tiny-box resolve the "problem" if indeed there is a problem..
Speaking for myself - some things really aren't rights, but privileges - like health care - but the same rules should apply to all.

Redefining marriage? Yeah - I have a problem with that. All Christians should have a problem with that. Marriage is a foundational building block of any culture that God put in place. Now we want to add a sinful alternative. God doesn't want that. I don't want that.
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Old 08-04-2015, 10:18 AM
 
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For those of you who weren't here for the AIDS crisis in the 80's: This was the typical attitude of the fundamentalists. The victims of AIDS deserved to die horrible deaths because they were gay. There was a lot of hate preached in fundamentalist churches. People who shared Jeffy's version of religion told their own sons they deserved to die because they were gay. Then they deserted them.

Thankfully non-fundamentalists stepped up to care for the victims. Since their own families did nothing.
And this is the typical distortion from the left. Back to my analogy, your distortion would be saying, "yep see you got burned and you deserved it. I'm glad you got that punishment". To say that we think AIDS victims deserve their suffering implies that we approve of the suffering. I don't. I wouldn't wish something like AIDs on anyone.

But if you go into dangerous territory of sinful activity and get hurt, you only have yourself to blame, not God. God wants us to stay away from sin for that very reason. It brings negativity and pain into our lives.
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Old 08-04-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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HIV is transmitted through the sharing of needles, needle sticks, blood transfusions,sexual contact, surgical instruments. No sin necessary.


No homosexuality necessary. No "parts" needed. It happens in marriage. There is always a victim.
So if someone knowing full well the risks of HIV infection goes out and has sex with a dozen strangers, gets HIV, then they are the victim? Does personal accountability ever exist in your world?
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Old 08-04-2015, 10:22 AM
 
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It has been shown, though...to run rampant among certain demographics--including gay men. Anyone with an internet connection and google can easily find the statistics.
The point is, one group is being demonized. HIV is serious disease among heterosexual men and women.
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Old 08-04-2015, 10:22 AM
 
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And heterosexual men and WOMEN...
Not according to the statistics. Gays are the overwhelming majority of new infections.
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Old 08-04-2015, 10:23 AM
 
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So if someone knowing full well the risks of HIV infection goes out and has sex with a dozen strangers, gets HIV, then they are the victim? Does personal accountability ever exist in your world?
What world is that?
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Old 08-04-2015, 10:36 AM
 
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So if someone knowing full well the risks of HIV infection goes out and has sex with a dozen strangers, gets HIV, then they are the victim? Does personal accountability ever exist in your world?
All it takes is one person.

You seem to think your experience of going out, and having sex with a dozen strangers applies to everyone.
Your experience of having sex with dozens of strangers is anecdotal. Now that you have come to some sort personal responsibility you seem to think others have acted the same and lack personal responsibility.

It is not always the case. Most of us seem to manage our lives with out having sex with strangers, let alone a dozen of them. Perhaps you did not have such discretion.
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Old 08-04-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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And heterosexual men and WOMEN...
Again...just hit up google. In the gay population it has been statistically documented that a very small minority of the population accounts for a huge percentage of HIV infections. But if you're bound and determined to bury your head in the ground, there's not much I can do about it.
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