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Discuss, yes. Troll? No. And it would be nice to have actual discussions of Christianity, and not pseudo-christian cults.
Then take responsibility for engaging, Viz. You engage because you gain something from it, or you would not do it.
If your faith is a cult, you have the same right to engage as others. No one stops you. I have not seen trolls here, just people I engage in discussion about Christianity and it's aspects.
Sadly, it's not even that we have other pseudo-Christian religions represented here as Christian, but there are some atheists outright trolling the "Christianity" board.
"Trolling": anything that Vizio doesn't like to hear.
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Discuss, yes. Troll? No. And it would be nice to have actual discussions of Christianity, and not pseudo-christian cults.
"Actual Christianity": whatever Vizio agrees with. Sorry - don't mean to needle but longing for differing voices to just shut up and go away is a venerable but not respectable view of those who don't care to have their precious beliefs uncomfortably put to the question.
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"Trolling": anything that Vizio doesn't like to hear.
I encourage discussion. But outright mockery and attacking of Biblical Christianity on the "Christianity" forum? Yah....that's trolling.
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"Actual Christianity": whatever Vizio agrees with. Sorry - don't mean to needle but longing for differing voices to just shut up and go away is a venerable but not respectable view of those who don't care to have their precious beliefs uncomfortably put to the question.
Why is it that you seem to be able to tell me what Christianity is not, but when I make a statement of what it is or isn't you accuse me of being a hater?
Why is it that on a board dedicated to "Christianity", the guy with an advanced degree in theology is the one getting lectured by the ones that think 2 Hesitations is a book in the Bible?
I encourage discussion. But outright mockery and attacking of Biblical Christianity on the "Christianity" forum? Yah....that's trolling.
Discussion is fine, but when we run up against stonewalling and denial or ludicrous claims we show them to be absurd - and that you call 'mockery'. Discussion without 'attacking' sounds to me like discussion without disagreeing with anything you claimed. You may wish that was the case, but you can no longer expect to get away with it.
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Why is it that you seem to be able to tell me what Christianity is not, but when I make a statement of what it is or isn't you accuse me of being a hater?
What on earth is that to do with what I posted? I am not claiming what is or is not correct Christianity. You are - it is whatever you happen to think. And who called you a hater? I called you on your assertion that other people with different views were not talking correct doctrine. That is clearly calling them not real Christians.
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Why is it that on a board dedicated to "Christianity", the guy with an advanced degree in theology is the one getting lectured by the ones that think 2 Hesitations is a book in the Bible?
The fellow with the advanced degree in theology should be able to take care of himself. But what is pretty clear is that you, Vizio, old mate, with all your theological expertise, is unable to put up a decent argument against we inventors of 2 Hesitations
My faith is able to take a robust mocking. Faith without mocking is dead.
It can take robust disagreement, too. What is faith without its defenders? What is faith without disagreements ?
Funny thing, my faith always stands. I never worry about It lives and breathes.
That's fine. Any claims or beliefs should be able to stand up against rough handling, and if your faith can remain solid in the face of all that we can throw at it - then good for you. After all, much more of the discussion is intended for those looking in than for those on the end of the discussion. Only they can change their own minds. And a faith that has to be protected like eggshell porcelain against anyone who might crunch it in a hairy atheist fist to see how it stands up to it is a feeble and weak faith indeed.
That's fine. Any claims or beliefs should be able to stand up against rough handling, and if your faith can remain solid in the face of all that we can throw at it - then good for you. After all, much more of the discussion is intended for those looking in than for those on the end of the discussion. Only they can change their own minds. And a faith that has to be protected like eggshell porcelain against anyone who might crunch it in a hairy atheist fist to see how it stands up to it is a feeble and weak faith indeed.
Porcelain faiths need to be put away with the "good dishes, and delicate dustables" Trotted out only for the holidays, and treated with a delicacy unknown in my household.
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That's fine. Any claims or beliefs should be able to stand up against rough handling, and if your faith can remain solid in the face of all that we can throw at it - then good for you. After all, much more of the discussion is intended for those looking in than for those on the end of the discussion. Only they can change their own minds. And a faith that has to be protected like eggshell porcelain against anyone who might crunch it in a hairy atheist fist to see how it stands up to it is a feeble and weak faith indeed.[/quote]
Porcelain faiths need to be put away with the "good dishes, and delicate dustables" Trotted out only for the holidays, and treated with a delicacy unknown in my household.
I don't dare put my Faith away anywhere as anything I 'put away' I can never find again.
Christians haven't been able to agree on "sound doctrine" since the time of the reformation. And even before that, there was the schism between the Eastern and Western Churches in 1054.
Will the REAL Christianity PLEASE...stand up.
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"Trolling": anything that Vizio doesn't like to hear.
