Is Jesus God or Son of God ? (myth, church, believe)

[bwmillard]

From other threads I have read I would be under the impression that all do not think Jesus is God.

Hebrews 1:6-13 6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world he says, "Let all God's angels worship him."

7 In speaking of the angels he says, "He makes his angels winds, his servants flames of fire."

8 But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.

9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy"

10 He also says, "In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain, they will all wear out like a garment.

12 You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end."

13 To which of the angels did God ever say, "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet."

[I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA]

John 10:30 "The Father and I are one." I believe Jesus is God and He is the Son of God.

[bwmillard]

Originally Posted by I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA

John 10:30 "The Father and I are one." I believe Jesus is God and He is the Son of God.

I totally agree!!!!!!!!!!

[ProLogic]

Yea.. God is jesus the man and the holy spirit.

[Marks]

"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." (John 8:58)

No question about it.

[I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA]

John 14:9 "Jesus replied Philip don't you even yet know who I am, even after all the time I have been with you? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father, so why are you asking to see Him?"

No doubt in my mind

[SeekerSA]

I would love to hear how at Jesus' baptism and at the transfiguration on the mount the Father is separate.

Then explain how Jesus sits at the right hand side of Himself.

Then explain for those that believe in the virgin birth how the Holy Spirit does the deed and conceives Jesus.

Do not just defer to trinity (a myth) and Omnipresence.

Explain the difference in Son of man and Son of God.

Explain who the early church baptised in the name of.

Explain then why Jesus taught us to pray to the Father and not to Himself.

BTW regarding angels worshipping Him.

G32 αγγελος aggelos ang'-el-os
From αγγέλλω aggellō (probably derived from G71; compare G34; to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an "angel"; by implication a pastor: - angel, messenger.

[4Pillars]

Jesus is YHWH himself, the Son of the invisible God. He is the fullness of the Godhead, Bodily. God is an invisible Spirit, the Spirit of Love of whom no man hath seen at anytime nor his name been revealed to anyone at this time. Jesus existed BEFORE the World was. The World was made on the 2nd Day. Jesus is the Light of the 1st Day. The verse, in context, is one long paragraph.Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him: And He is before all things, and by Him all things consist. Col 1:15-17


God Bless

[DonGorgon]

Are we using the Bible to prove the Bible here?

[4Pillars]

Originally Posted by DonGorgon

Are we using the Bible to prove the Bible here?

I am using the Bible to support my assertions. Do you have any Scripture to give merit to your objection?

God Bless