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Originally Posted by twin.spin rather simple : "All scripture is God breathed" .... all of it. John was given what to write by God the Holy Spirit (third person of the trinity)
Originally Posted by DRob4JC (in response) You understand that unbelievers will never get this as long as they are unbelievers.
Originally Posted by twin.spin Sure do, those without God the Holy Spirit are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14
That I understand as a matter of fact exactly what DRob4JC was saying.
To the OP ... a similar question could be asked where Jesus spoke to God in the Garden of Gethsemane (Luke 22:39-46) while the disciples slept. He was alone at the time ...no one there to record his conversation at all. Similarly so with Matthew 4:1-11 where Jesus encounters Satan.
Incidentally, regarding 'the Holy Spirit' ...I've come across people from all denominations who claim to have an infilling of the HS. Problem is ...the Holy Spirit has a tendency to give people conflicting messages, hence the many different Christian denominations. How does that work . . .?
Well, for that matter, similar questions could be asked such as:
(1) Who was around to witness creation before the advent of Adam and Eve?
(2) Who was around to witness Adam and Eve and then the serpent episode?
(3) Who was around to witness Jonah in the belly of the sea creature and then Jonah alone with God when he was resentful and angry at God for showing mercy to the land of Nineveh?
Mar 15:43 Joseph of Arimathea, an honourable counsellor, who also himself was waiting for the reign of God, came, boldly entered in unto Pilate, and asked the body of Jesus.
Mar 15:44 And Pilate wondered if he were already dead, and having called near the centurion, did question him if he were long dead,
Mar 15:45 and having known it from the centurion, he granted the body to Joseph.
Mar 15:46 And he, having brought fine linen, and having taken him down, wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre that had been hewn out of a rock, and he rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre,
Mar 15:47 and Mary the Magdalene, and Mary of Joses, were beholding where he is laid.
Richard, I know 100 times more than you ever will about Christianity.
Here, I will show you that indeed Nicodemus was present.
38 After this Joseph of Arimathea, who was a disciple of Jesus, but in secret, for fear of the Jews, asked Pilate to let him take away the body of Jesus. Pilate gave him leave; so he came and took Jesus’ body away; 39 and with him was Nicodemus, the same who made his first visit to Jesus by night; he brought with him a mixture of myrrh and aloes, of about a hundred pounds’ weight. 40 They took Jesus’ body, then, and wrapped it in winding-cloths with the spices; that is how the Jews prepare a body for burial. 41 In the same quarter where he was crucified there was a garden, with a new tomb in it, one in which no man had ever yet been buried. 42 Here, since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus, because of the Jewish feast on the morrow.
How did the author of the gospel of John know about this conversation? It supposedly occurred between Jesus and Nicodemus, a Pharisee who came to Jesus at night to ask him questions.
His disciples have been together with Jesus enough that He could have shared what His conversation with Nicodemus was that night if it was a private. It's not like, He could get a visit without rousing any one else up to inquire what that private visit was about during the night.
Then there is this:
2 Peter 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
That would explain the reference to Enoch in the Book of Jude when obviously, no writings of Enoch was on the ark with Noah & his family.
That means the supposed books of Enoch are fakes, which is why those with His wisdom will find it as going against the accepted scripture in the KJV Bible.
His disciples have been together with Jesus enough that He could have shared what His conversation with Nicodemus was that night if it was a private. It's not like, He could get a visit without rousing any one else up to inquire what that private visit was about during the night.
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That's exactly why the explanation for why things in Matthew and nowhere else have to be false. The other disciples ought to have known about the massacre of the children at Bethlehem and the whole star and Herod story and the supposed tomb -guard, not to mention the raising of Lazarus and all those Lucan parables that never got a mention in the other gospels. And also the involvement of Nicodemus whom the other evangelists have never heard of, nor the spear -thrust or a single one of the theological sermons in John. Isn't it crystal clear that they each made this stuff up out of their own heads?
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.... only that at the baptism of Jesus the Triune God was seen and heard.
