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Old 08-27-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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43. For there is no good tree that bringeth forth corrupt fruit; nor again a corrupt tree that bringeth forth good fruit.

44. For each tree is known by its own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

45. The good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth that which is evil: for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh. (Luke 6:43-45)
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Old 08-27-2015, 11:32 AM
 
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Oh how i love the things Jesus taught.
Thank you.
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Old 08-27-2015, 12:44 PM
 
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43. For there is no good tree that bringeth forth corrupt fruit; nor again a corrupt tree that bringeth forth good fruit.

44. For each tree is known by its own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

45. The good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth that which is evil: for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh. (Luke 6:43-45)
If only god is good as Jesus stated then a good man must be a god.

This is why "it is impossible for man to be saved but everything is possible for god".
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Old 08-28-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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43. For there is no good tree that bringeth forth corrupt fruit; nor again a corrupt tree that bringeth forth good fruit.

44. For each tree is known by its own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

45. The good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth that which is evil: for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh. (Luke 6:43-45)

Exactly right.

Catholicism( tree trunk) = 2Thess 2:3---- 33,000 trinity religions( branches)= a divided house-they will not stand-Mark 3:24-26
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Old 08-28-2015, 05:07 PM
 
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That is terrible exegesis. If you compare it with it's parallel texts in Matthew 7 15-20 you know he's talking about false prophets. I don't know where you get this "good men are gods" nonsense.
A god complex is an unshakable belief characterized by consistently inflated feelings of personal ability, privilege, or infallibility.
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Old 08-29-2015, 01:43 PM
 
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A god complex is an unshakable belief characterized by consistently inflated feelings of personal ability, privilege, or infallibility.
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You're applying modern psychological terms to 2000 year old Holy Scriptures as if Jesus would use it as a metaphor?
A metaphor is a figure of speech that identifies something as being the same, as some unrelated thing for rhetorical effect, thus highlighting the similarities between the two. But what amazes me, are people who believe they speak for that of another.
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Old 08-29-2015, 02:03 PM
 
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I honestly can't tell what you're saying. You're saying Jesus would use a modern psychological term?
No, I am saying that some people have a messiah complex, or delusions of grandeur.
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Old 08-30-2015, 08:41 PM
 
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And that has to do with the Gospel how?
You're not even the person I originally replied to.
You were replying to the one who HAS a God complex. That is who Jerwade was referring to. Peacegiver thinks he is the Son of Man sent from God.
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Old 08-31-2015, 07:50 AM
 
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You were replying to the one who HAS a God complex. That is who Jerwade was referring to. Peacegiver thinks he is the Son of Man sent from God.
Is it a god complex or is it a fact? "The son of man will come at a time you least expect."

"No one knows the son except the Father and no one knows the Father except the son and whoever the son will reveal Him."

"Sinners won't be allowed in the assembly of the just."
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Old 08-31-2015, 08:35 AM
 
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43. For there is no good tree that bringeth forth corrupt fruit; nor again a corrupt tree that bringeth forth good fruit.

44. For each tree is known by its own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

45. The good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth that which is evil: for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh. (Luke 6:43-45)
While that is true, especially for the Circumcision Jews, there were many problems in the early gentile churches Paul had to address. Even though some of these early gentile Christians were exhibiting many fruits of the flesh, they were still saved. We are saved by grace no matter if our works are good or bad. Sure, I'd rather they all be good but that won't happen until we put on immortality and incorruption.
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