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Funny 2Chron 21,12-15
Says nothing of the sort, why are you lying?
12And a letter came to him from Elijah the prophet, saying, "So said the Lord, the God of David your father: Because you did not go in the ways of Jehoshaphat your father and in the ways of Asa, the king of Judah.
13And you went in the way of the kings of Israel, and you led Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem astray, as the house of Ahab led astray, and also you assassinated your brothers of your father's house, who were better than you.
14Behold the Lord will smite your people with a great plague, and your sons and your wives and all your possessions.
15And you will have many illnesses with the illness of your bowels, until your bowels come out because of the illness, days upon days."
Your wife is mistaken--I know exactly what the JW,s teach on that matter--literal Israel is cut off--spiritual Israel is now Gods chosen. This is fact.
Any Israelite on the planet can accept Jesus as the messiah--some have. But it is a requirement with 0 doubt.
Nope...My wife knows her religion way better than you do and that's a fact...I think either you are being deceptive or you have a false teacher...
Your wife is mistaken--I know exactly what the JW,s teach on that matter--literal Israel is cut off--spiritual Israel is now Gods chosen. This is fact.
Any Israelite on the planet can accept Jesus as the messiah--some have. But it is a requirement with 0 doubt.
Oh, and by the way, you told me to go ask my wife because she has been a JW for 54 years, her whole life, however, I bet you thought she would say that you were right...So, now she is not acceptable to you because she didn't agree with you...My wife would make you cry like a baby...
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ask her, I approve fully if she is an actual JW. Matt 23:37-38 is truth= cut off--unless they accept Jesus as the Messiah=100% fact.
Last edited by Richard1965; 09-19-2015 at 05:46 PM..
Sometimes you show wisdom above others. I appreciate having discussions with you Richard1965.
That's nice, however, that sounded a bit arrogant...Not a good quality...Humbleness is better...I always show wisdom above others, even you...Do you know why?...Because I do not let the Watch-Tower or anyone else tell me what something means when I have a brain and can read it for myself...I guarantee you that the NWT or any of the others such as KJV, NASB, etal. are mis-translated...They do not represent the actual Hebrew scriptures of the Seferim Torah rather they have been modified to support the Christian writings...And do you know how I found this out?...By actually reading for myself and researching it myself...If they are exact translations of the Seferim Torah then they should say the exact same thing and they don't...
12And a letter came to him from Elijah the prophet, saying, "So said the Lord, the God of David your father: Because you did not go in the ways of Jehoshaphat your father and in the ways of Asa, the king of Judah.
13And you went in the way of the kings of Israel, and you led Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem astray, as the house of Ahab led astray, and also you assassinated your brothers of your father's house, who were better than you.
14Behold the Lord will smite your people with a great plague, and your sons and your wives and all your possessions.
15And you will have many illnesses with the illness of your bowels, until your bowels come out because of the illness, days upon days."
There ya go...Now who's lying?...
Right, Word of God, Elijah accended into heaven. Jesus ´Scripture cannot be rejected.´ But ofcourse you do not except any new testament scripture, so why even post in here?
Do you mean to say Elijah could not have accended because it references a letter sent by him at a later time?
Is that your point here?
Chronicles begins at the beginning of the history of humanity, with Adam, and the story is then carried forward, almost entirely by genealogical lists, down to the founding of the Israelite monarchy (1 Chronicles 1–9). The bulk of the remainder of 1 Chronicles, after a brief account of Saul, is concerned with the reign of David (1 Chronicles 11–29). The next long section concerns David's son Solomon (2 Chronicles 1–9), and the final part is concerned with the kingdom of Judah with occasional references to the kingdom of Israel (2 Chronicles 10–36). In the last chapter Judah is destroyed and the people taken into exile in Babylon, and in the final verses the Persian king Cyrus conquers Babylon, and authorises the restoration of the Temple in Jerusalem, and the return of the exiles.
I see no conflict.
Text reads something written by the prophet elijah came into his hands- Not letter.
Do you mean to say Elijah could not have ascended because it references a letter sent by him at a later time?
Elijah was taken or transported to another place, where he could not be found.
He disappeared from one location and ended up somewhere else, not heaven.
Right, Word of God, Elijah accended into heaven. Jesus ´Scripture cannot be rejected.´ But ofcourse you do not except any new testament scripture, so why even post in here?
Do you mean to say Elijah could not have accended because it references a letter sent by him at a later time?
Is that your point here?
Chronicles begins at the beginning of the history of humanity, with Adam, and the story is then carried forward, almost entirely by genealogical lists, down to the founding of the Israelite monarchy (1 Chronicles 1–9). The bulk of the remainder of 1 Chronicles, after a brief account of Saul, is concerned with the reign of David (1 Chronicles 11–29). The next long section concerns David's son Solomon (2 Chronicles 1–9), and the final part is concerned with the kingdom of Judah with occasional references to the kingdom of Israel (2 Chronicles 10–36). In the last chapter Judah is destroyed and the people taken into exile in Babylon, and in the final verses the Persian king Cyrus conquers Babylon, and authorises the restoration of the Temple in Jerusalem, and the return of the exiles.
In other words, you didn't read Chronicles for yourself, you just did a quick google search and cut & pasted someone else's theory...
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I see no conflict.
Text reads something written by the prophet elijah came into his hands- Not letter.
But, that is not what it says in the Hebrew...
And you are calling Jesus a liar...
Joh 3:13 and no one hath gone up to the heaven, except he who out of the heaven came down--the Son of Man who is in the heaven.
That's nice, however, that sounded a bit arrogant...Not a good quality...Humbleness is better...I always show wisdom above others, even you...Do you know why?...Because I do not let the Watch-Tower or anyone else tell me what something means when I have a brain and can read it for myself...I guarantee you that the NWT or any of the others such as KJV, NASB, etal. are mis-translated...They do not represent the actual Hebrew scriptures of the Seferim Torah rather they have been modified to support the Christian writings...And do you know how I found this out?...By actually reading for myself and researching it myself...If they are exact translations of the Seferim Torah then they should say the exact same thing and they don't...
You say humbleness is better, then say you are above everyone else-- The teachings of Jesus prove it all.
Oh, and by the way, you told me to go ask my wife because she has been a JW for 54 years, her whole life, however, I bet you thought she would say that you were right...So, now she is not acceptable to you because she didn't agree with you...My wife would make you cry like a baby...
When did I say your wife was unacceptable--please stop twisting my words..Jw.org will prove her wrong on the matter. No she could not make me cry--I have learned for 54 years as well. 100% fact--The JW,s teach--literal Israel( religion) is cut off--spiritual Israel is now Gods chosen.
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